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#Editor for Toaster

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#46125From: JERRY HATCHETTOct 27, 1992 7:58 PM
Well, folks, I thought I'd already fulfilled my needs for an editing system for my Toaster-based suite, when I ordered the equipment recommended and sold by Interactive Media. Unfortunately, I called today for tech support, speaking to the guy I ordered the gear from, and he listened to my questions and problems, then said "Well, sorry, I don't have a clue as to how to help you." I also forgot to mention that I paid an additional $40.00 up front for 30 minutes of tech support. But, to shorten a long story, I'm returning the equipment, since it will not work with my setup, and would appreciate any advice on a nice editing controller that interfaces nicely with a Toaster-based suite. I was considering AmiLink, until I read some unfavorable comments on this forum about it. I'm using 2 Sony EV-S3000's for source players, and a Sony EVO-9650 record deck. I've ordered a Tascam 688 multitrack mixing cassette deck to handle the audio chores. Many thanks in advance for help! Jerry Hatchett
#46163From: THOMAS N. WHEELEROct 28, 1992 9:59 PM
Jerry, Since I use and recommend the edditing equipment sold by InterActive Microsystems, I am concerned to hear of your problems. I have had a similar experience with poor technical support by Interactive Microsystems. I have found that if you can get through to Jim Rickman, he is knowledgeable and helpful. Unfortunately I have not always been able to get past the person who answers the phone! I am using a Mediaphile 2.0 editing controller and Mediaprocessor to do A/B rolls with a Sony 801 and Sony EVS-3000 as source machines and a Panasonic AG-1960 as the record deck. I have used this setup for over eight months and edited many hours of Hi-8 tape complete with hundreds of Toaster DVE's. I have found the Mediaphile equipment to be difficult to initally set up and learn to use, but once you are past this, the equipment does a very good job. If you want to send me a private E-mail with your phone number, I'll be glad to do what I can to help you get your MediaPhile equipment up and running. Be assured that I am not affiliated in any way with Interactive Microsystems. I am not a video professional, just a hobbyist who has successfully gotten the Mediaphile equipment to perform as advertised. Tom
#46178From: JERRY HATCHETTOct 29, 1992 8:54 AM
Tom, I can indeed see where the Interactive equipment would work nicely, but here's the crux of the problem: the EVO-9650 is controlled via serial port. Since the Mediaphile Edit Controller plugs into the serial port, I asked Jim Rickman about adding another serial port for the EVO-9650. He then told me that their software will only address the Amiga's primary serial port, but that if I wanted to send them my 9650, they would 'try' over the coming weeks to see if they could get their software to work on a secondary serial port. Also, as I explained my setup to him, he said "Why did you buy that combination of equipment from us, since it's not what you need?" I then explained that I went solely on HIS recommendation, after I had told him precisely and exactly what equipment I would be using. Just left a bad taste, not to mention the fact that I don't really care to send my new $4500 VCR off for a few weeks. Thanks, and Stay in Touch!! Jerry
#46197From: THOMAS N. WHEELEROct 29, 1992 9:05 PM
Jerry, That's interesting. I'm sorry to hear of your experience with Interactive Microsystems and I don't blame you for returning the equipment. The audacity of Interactive Microsystems to charge the customer for technical support is perhaps the last straw, especially when both their manuals and their tech support leave much to be desired. It's curious that Rickman apparently never mentioned to you that Interactive Microsystems was supposed to introduce a controller for serial port VCR's. This controller, the 3.0S Pro, is pictured in their current product catalog but is apparently still vaporware. In any case good luck, and let me know what editing equipment you ultimately purchase. Tom
#46209From: JERRY HATCHETTOct 30, 1992 10:33 AM
Tom, I forgot to mention that I had to get pretty haughty to get Rickman to agree not to charge me a $100 restocking fee, which I found absurd considering the facts of my situation. Thanks, Jerry
#46263From: JERRY HATCHETTOct 31, 1992 9:35 AM
Has anybody had any experience with an editing system called "The Editizer"??? It runs on an IBM platform, and allows serial control of the Toaster. The manufacturer faxed me some info on it, and it sounds like a pretty impressive system, but I'd really like any feedback you guys could provide. Thanks, Jerry
#46294From: Eric CohaneOct 31, 1992 8:19 PM
Jerry, I have been using The Editizer from TAO, Inc. (Rolla, MO – 800/264-1121 or 314/364-4925) since early 1992; mine was one of their first units (maybe THE first), and version 1.0 of the software. It was just OK. Over the course of the year, TAO has upgraded the software continuously (for free, so far), and provided outstanding support to me. I am now using the current release (version 1.92) of the software, and it is excellent. It provides complete A/B roll editing control and control of the Toaster (and internal DPS TBC II cards, too, if you use them). The cost of the system was about $1,600 when I got it, but I think it is now something around $2,500. It requires an IBM compatible PC (at least a 386SX, 12 MHz) and MS Windows 3.1. I highly recommend it. -Eric
#46340From: JERRY HATCHETTNov 1, 1992 7:04 PM
Eric, Thanks for the reply. The IBM equipment is no problem, since we build it here at the office daily. I think I'm gonna give this setup a shot. Thanks, Jerry
#46366From: Forrest McKinneyNov 2, 1992 12:14 PM
I am a dealer fro the Editizer picked it up about June this year, so far the product has been performing well in most situations, the only problems I have seen with it is when using there Serializer boxes for Parrell decks, and basicly those just didnt work, but they have updated the Serializer hardware and it now seems to be stable. Version 2.0 will be the first update they will charge for and not much at that. The product works, and the company is very responsive and willing to support the product, and at $1999 list it is a great buy… Forrest
#46399From: JERRY HATCHETTNov 3, 1992 1:23 PM
Forrest, I called TAO yesterday, sadly to find out that the system will not yet support my recorder, the Sony EVO-9650. Any other suggestions?? Thanks, Jerry
#46405From: Suresh KavanNov 3, 1992 4:13 PM
If the 9650 is Visca capable, The Editizer will s'port it by year-end.
#46689From: Forrest McKinneyNov 9, 1992 12:59 PM
Currently the only controllers I know that work with the non standard EVO-9650 VISCA protocal, is Video Director by Gold Disk, Sony's own VIsca editor, and Video Media's OZ, SuperMIcron also control it… Forrest
#46566From: Dean CooperNov 7, 1992 9:18 AM
I've been very happy with the Ami-Link equipment, as a dealer and as a user. There's a small learning curve, and it's not "Fancy", but it works great, and is a very productive tool. Dean Cooper-Computer House, Reno NV
#46176From: Richard BrownOct 29, 1992 8:33 AM
I use the Macintosh based Sundance System from Sundance Technology in Houston Texas. In an A/B roll configuration it cost about $3500 complete. It will allow you to controll up to 15 serial controlable decks and has 8 GPI triggers and controls the Toaster or any other serial controlable switcher. I am using this system with 2-Panasonic 7750's, a JVC 811U w/911 controler, 2-Sony 9800's and 1-Sony 9850. I was up and running doing a/b roll edits within a half hour after unpacking the system out of the box. The best thing about the Sundance System is the Tech Support. This company has bent over backwards to answer any questions I have had. They also seem to love taking any suggestions for on how they can improve their product. Hope this helps!
#46180From: JERRY HATCHETTOct 29, 1992 8:56 AM
Thanks, Richard! I had hoped to be able to stick to one platform for this, but that may not be possible. I may look into the Sundance. Jerry
#46189From: John GrossOct 29, 1992 6:53 PM
Jerry, If you have a mac, Sundance makes a nice editor that will control the Toaster. It doesn't have as complete control as Amilink but it's very good. It only will work with serial controlled decks. — JG <licensed to fly>