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#Amiga Doubter

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#116594From: Lisa van SandSep 30, 1993 10:58 PM
My husband and I are having a discussion about the viability of making a living using the Amiga in the are of "Computer Graphics" (high end). I believe that you are out there some where, and he says NObody does it. He wants proof that somebody out there is making at least 30K/year using the Amiga. He beleives that people only use the Amiga for games, 3D, and video applications. Would you please help me to prove him wrong? Please write back and let me know what you do, how you do it, and what kind of set up you have… Thanks a bunch… He uses Freehand, Illustrator, Coral Draw, Photoshop, Photostyler, Pagemaker and Quark. He says there is no Amiga compatability for output, or rather that it would cost $25,000 to have a linotype.
#116633From: Christopher TolmieOct 1, 1993 5:48 AM
Lisa, I have a LINO (actually a Varityper) and can output just fine to it with my Amiga using PPage, Pagestream and PDraw. Since I'm just getting it back on-line I can't say that I'm earning 30K a year right now. Ask me again in another year. 🙂 If you have an Amiga file you want output to an imagesetter, send it to me I'll send you back a sample page from it. Chris BTW, I never got anyone to use that biscuit recipe you sent me. <sigh> Got anymore? <grin>
#116635From: Lisa van SandOct 1, 1993 6:17 AM
Hey there Chris… Long time, no type! How've you been? Where are ya working? Did you move back into your house? Can you beleive that Ev and I are having this argument? He is just frustrated witht the limited output for the Amiga. You can't own one, and where we are is pretty remote in terms of convenience. Our Amiga dealer sells more IBM's than Amiga, so there is very little support. Since I have your ear, I wonder if you can help me with two things. 1) it took me five (count 'em 5) tries to get online this morning. When I Hit"O" to start the connection process, the screen (miniscreen) starts with "ATZ", then "OK", then when the dial tone comes on there are symbolslike these…"11111111111111111“~~~~~~~~~~~~lllllll llllllllllllllll~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ ~~~~~~~" running across the screen. Then most times now, the "Connect" is scrambled and the whole process freezes. I have to turn off my modem, and start all over again. Since I am paying for each telephone connection, this is getting to be costly… Any suggestions? Could it be my Modem losing it's pitch? The other thing is that I do not have the AP upgrade. I wrote to Steve about a couple of problems I had, and he said to get the upload. He declined to tell me whether or not there was a cost, and exactly how to get it. Are there new "docs" too? Could this be part of my connect problem? I will be making more Biscotti this fall, and would be happy to send you some. I am off to St. Louis to visit and check on our house which was saved from flooding (so far), and try to put it on the market. I'll be gone a week, but I will be here for most of the day… Good talking to you!!! Lisa
#116676From: Christopher TolmieOct 1, 1993 5:28 PM
Lisa, When you say, "…limited output for the Amiga…" What type of output do you require? What do you mean by "You can't own one,…" If you mean imagesetter, yes I do own one, might I interest you in its purchase? 🙂 If not, I would be happy to output a couple test pages for you, just send me a disk file, either Postscript (be sure to set up the print parameters correctly) or in PPage, Pagestream or PDraw format. Print parameters for Imagesetter: Roll Paper 11.7 inches wide Centering page is helpful For crop marks make output page size (not page layout size) large enough to include the dimensions of the crop marks, plus page should be oriented to allow length of page to run with the length of the roll not its width. If you don't do this with crop marks there won't be enough space to print them. As for the logon problems, it sounds like maybe a problem with the phone line. I had a similar problem, right down to paying for the long-distance call. Finally I couldn't log on at all, called the P-company and complained, the service guy called and said the problem was fixed. I asked what it was he said a bird nest in a junction box four miles from my house had gotten wet and became conductive just enough to cause enough conductivity to make the cross-connections. If your problem continues I'd call Repair and ask them to check their lines. Love the Biscotti, still have the recipe you sent me, guess I'll have to try and bake them myself. Of course I'll be happy to receive a package of your world-famous Lisa van Sand Biscotti! <grin>
#116694From: Karl F. KugelOct 1, 1993 10:48 PM
I think CIS is having some problems with their network. I had to try twice to log on myself, and I got a scrolling screen full of "?"'s the first time. // -Karl \X/ Amiga and Autopilot: The *only* way to fly!
#116754From: Soft-Logik Tech SupportOct 2, 1993 2:28 PM
We have lots of customers using PageStream to make a living. Many of them are successful and some have lots of computers running PageStream in one office. People send us books, magazines, flyers, ads and other work all the time which is produced in PageStream. PageStream files can be printed at Mac and PC oriented service bureaus. Cheers, Michael @ Soft-Logik Publishing Corp.
#116805From: Wayne ColeOct 3, 1993 1:17 AM
Lisa, You need to talk to a guy named Chris Tolmie. He has been using the Amiga for years in DTP and graphics. With ADPro Interchange and the like, compatibility in graphics is not that much of an issue. On the PC HiJack reads/converts Amiga formats as well. Also if you have a tricked out Amiga with Emplant or bridgeboard/Amax then you have 3 machines in one box. What more could ya want? I mainly do video, but all my printed material is done with PageStream (can go head-to-head with any DTP on any platform) then take my stuff to the local lino boys on a PC format disk with PostScript output files that they look at on their Macs and say things like, "you forgot the registration mark on page 1…" then they just run the stuff no problemo to the old 2400 dpi color print beasty. As far as graphics, if you don't make it, it won't be becuase of the Amiga. The packages are there, the professional I/O quality is there, it is merely a case of the talent and business acumen of the user. Now, if you are talking networked accounting/data base packages for a multi-million dollar company, better get something else…. wmc – via Autopilot!
#116818From: Paul ToalOct 3, 1993 5:30 AM
Wayne- If I find a real keeper in LightWave that rendered out really nice, can I somehow send it off to a bureau to have it printed? What output do I ask for and what is the ideal format for it to be in? –Paul < Motorola Inside >
#116944From: Wayne ColeOct 4, 1993 3:32 AM
Paul, If you have ADPro you can change the image from either a FrameStore or IFF to a TIFF or PostScript. Most service beareaus can take either of thos file formats on a PC format disk and put them out on a high quality high resolution printer. In fact, if you have a Kinko's near you, you could take it to their DTP department for them to print. For a single picture, I'm not sure what the cost would be, but I would expect it to not be too unreasonable. I hope I answered you question; you were talking a single image, not an entire animation, right? wmc – via Autopilot!
#116949From: Paul ToalOct 4, 1993 5:15 AM
Yes, right, perfect answer! What kind of print do I ask for? I remember CibaChrome back in the 70's, is there something vibrant like that? –Paul < Motorola Inside >
#117054From: Wayne ColeOct 5, 1993 1:25 AM
Oh – O.K. Paul – now I'm on your wavelength. You want output to a photographic emulsion type printer rather than to a standard color print(ed) media format like color brochure, or magazine print. This I'm not so sure of. I think I remember seeing a PostScipt to Polaroid printer that would go to 16 x 20 both as prints and transparecies. To get to Cibachrome you have to get to a copy neg or slide first which would require an RGB/NTSC to photo step in there that I am not knowledgable enough to do anything but speculate. Well, I was going to say that if I were faced with the problem I'd look in the back pages of VTU first. I just did. Here is a place that does 4×5 transparencies or 35 mm slides from IFF or Color PostScript. Hammond Photgraphic Services, 11280 Washinton Place, Culver City CA 90320 (310) 390-3010. Before you try the porcess you may want to find out if you need to make compensations at any point to get the photo output to look as true as possible to the "keeper" on you screen. Sorry can't be of more help, but your into an area I've not yet ventured. Let us know what you find out… wmc – via Autopilot!
#117168From: Paul ToalOct 6, 1993 4:23 AM
Hey! This is a good lead, thanks for the detective work, now it makes sense. Now I gotta find a favorite. On a side note, that Primera printer is an astounding value and beautiful prints. Very tempting. –Paul < Motorola Inside >
#117276From: Wayne ColeOct 7, 1993 5:39 AM
Yes Paul, it did look nice. wmc – via Autopilot!