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#60122From: Matthew JoyceOct 4, 1993 7:10 AM
1. OK, I can load a fractal landscape into 3ds fine, but when the camara moves across, bits start disappearing ? It really is very annoying ! 2. Are there any raytracing magazines available in the UK ? 3. What is the minimum hardware I need to get an animation on to VHS tape. already have 486/33 16Mb,240Mb,VGA
#60145From: David RhotenOct 4, 1993 10:03 AM
Sounds like your camera clipping plane is the problem. Either scale up your entire mesh (the preferred method) or change the clipping distance in the 3DS.SET file. Dave
#60157From: ALAN IGLESIASOct 4, 1993 11:19 AM
You need to scale your scene up some to stop the camera clipping problems you are experiencing, Mat. When the size of your scene is a reasonable number of world-coordinates, things will stop "dissapearing" on you. The *minimum* hardware needed to get a real-time flic to tape would be a low-cost RGB-to-NTSC (or PAL) converter to go along with your computer's VGA output.
#60277From: Matthew JoyceOct 5, 1993 9:06 AM
Thanks Alan, I try the "camera clipping distance" thing tonight. As for Flic -> Tape, how does it work ? does the converter sit between my PC and monitor, and will I be able to render straight to video, or am I missing something here ? Mat
#60296From: ALAN IGLESIASOct 5, 1993 12:18 PM
Some RGB-to-NTSC converters are actually part of a VGA card (like my Everex Vision-Vga) or frame buffer card (like the Targa+), and some are stand-alone units (like the IDEN converter or other external solutions). You simply run your flic on your computer and record real-time to a VCR. Note that this is a lower-level recording technique and will have color and motion limitations. -Alan Iglesias
#60588From: Matthew JoyceOct 7, 1993 5:52 AM
OK, I see, I would have to have to have the whole flic rendered on my harddisk, then press record on my Video and play the flic on my PC ? Hmmm… surely it would be very hard to piece together a long animation and get it frame perfect ? Mat
#60751From: ALAN IGLESIASOct 8, 1993 4:09 AM
Well, as long as you have a deck with flying erase heads, you should be able to fairly seamlessly string together flics on tape…BTW, playing flics from anything but RAM can often be unacceptably slow.
#60753From: Matthew JoyceOct 8, 1993 5:33 AM
Hmmm… Flying Erase Heads ? Sounds like a fault ! What is it/are they ? How do I know if I have them/it ? Mat
#60771From: Oct 8, 1993 9:50 AM
>> Hmmm… Flying Erase Heads ? What is it/are they ? The "Flying Erase Heads" was a circus acrobatic team founded by Alan Iglesias and his family many years ago. They toured around the country until computers were invented, when they stopped using pencils, and lost all their erasers. When they realized that their name didn't make sense any more, they got despondant, and stopped performing. Good thing for us, because it gives Alan enough time to frequent this forum on a regular basis. PS – Don't bring it up in a conversation with him, it's still a sore subject.
#60797From: ALAN IGLESIASOct 8, 1993 12:33 PM
GregP's *mildly*<g> ammusing answer notwithstanding, Mat, flying erase heads (so-called 'cause they're on the helical scan head-drum and not stationary, I think) Allow you to make some pretty clean edits with some comsumer-grade VCRs. They are commonly found on 4-head machines and such, and are usually listed as a "feature" of the deck. -Alan (misses those trapeeze days…) PS — Be sure to ask Greg about how his family originally emigrated to the US — seems the *original* Pyros Partnership, a loosely formed band of fireworks makers in the Greek Isles around the turn of the century headed up by Greg's great-grandfather "Sparksopolous" Pyros, got just a little too Ouzo'ed up during a big fireworks show they were putting on. The next day (even though they only burned down *half* the town), the company was forced to redesign and build the town up again, or suffer very dire consequences. Being people of integrity, the Partnership *did* redesign town and became extremely good architects in the process. Being that there was nothing left to build in their area, they decided to come to the land of oppurtunity, the US, and settle here, bringing their knowledge with them. GregP, who reportedly could sell non-existent HO-scale brooklyn bridges to his classmates at the age of 6, came to California to settle here in the good land of LA, where he continues family traditions…and we're glad he did!
#60843From: Denise TylerOct 8, 1993 9:44 PM
>Be sure to ask Greg about how his family originally emigrated to the US >– seems the *original* Pyros Partnership, a loosely formed band of fireworks >makers in the Greek Isles around the turn of the century headed up by Greg's >great-grandfather "Sparksopolous" Pyros, That's one of the best things I like about this business – the creativity of the people involved in more areas than one <G>! Seems to be that it was this family background that may have "sparked" a few IPAS routines! <g>
#60897From: ALAN IGLESIASOct 9, 1993 11:50 AM
Thanks, Denise. Lets hope that Greg was as amused as you were. I just *had* to do something after that erase-head story!<g> Actually, one of the things that Greg is real good at is that he can take it as well as dish it out. Gotta like that in a person! Bottom line is that a little good-natured ribbing every now a then just keeps things hoppin'a little around here…
#60925From: Oct 9, 1993 1:46 PM
>> Actually, one of the things that Greg is real good at is that he can >> take it as well as dish it out. Oh, yea? We'll see about that! <bg> Anyone else who wants their family history maligned, please contact either Alan or myself. We also perform live at weddings, bar-mitzvas, and Siggraph parties!
#60848From: Don LandisOct 8, 1993 10:25 PM
>>(so-called 'cause they're on the helical scan head-drum and not stationary, I think)<< Correct! and more correctly they are called rotary erase heads. They are located on the sync controlled spinning servo driven drum in a fixed relation to the record head so that each diagonal track of video can be laid down by the record head immediately after it is erased from a previously recorded video track. The method can be designed for field erasure or frame erasure 2 or i erase heads respectively. These tracks look something like: \\\\\\\\\\\ along the tape each being a field of video. This allows for precise frame accurate editing along the diagonal track. The other type of erase head is a clean sweep stationary erase head set some distance from the rotary video record heads and by its nature can not do a diagonal track erasure because it's like: ||||| and would leave a partial track of snow or unrecorded video after erasure til the next recorded segment locked up. A cheap compromise was incorporated in VCR's without rotary erase heads which backs up the tape at each pause, which begins recording over top of previously unerased video This allows for a butt edit with only a color rainbow defect at the splice where the two different video fields got layered for a short distance of tape. 4 heads or 2 heads has nothing to do with rotary erasure. A 4 head design was incorporated for two reasons. First to optimize the head gap for slow speed and for normal speed, 2 for each. A two head VCR can do all speeds but at a compromise quality for all speeds. Second, when incorporating analog special effects as slo-mo all four heads are switched to lock the picture stability. Digital sfx does not require four for these effects.
#60896From: ALAN IGLESIASOct 9, 1993 11:50 AM
Thanks, Don, for the technical wrap-up! It's nice to get the real dope on this stuff, especially for folks who are coming into this business pretty dry. BTW, I didn't mean to imply that 4-head arrangements and flying erase heads were directly associated, just that when a manufacturer includes one, they often include the other!
#60971From: Don LandisOct 9, 1993 6:50 PM
>> I didn't mean to imply that 4-head arrangements and flying erase heads were directly associated, just that when a manufacturer includes one, they often include the other! Yes, that is true for consumer grade decks, not true for industrial decks that do single speed.