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#Altimira Composer?

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#60660From: Mike KelleyOct 7, 1993 1:49 PM
So what, exactly, is this Composer thingee? I'm looking for a way to do some nice titling (not 3D) and a few things I've read have suggested this might be the product I want. Conversely (or likewise) does anyone have an opinion on the best way to generate text for titling in a Windows product? Adobe Illustrator? I have Corel 4, and can do nice text, but it seems like there should be an easier (read: more automatic) way of doing things (drop shadows, kerning, etc.)
#60663From: Paul LindOct 7, 1993 2:42 PM
There is an easier way of doing it (Titling). It's called Inscriber!
#60671From: Mike KelleyOct 7, 1993 4:23 PM
Well, that's all and good for you to say — but what about the details? What is it? Where can I get it? Where can I find out about it? I went back and reviewed the message base about Altimira, and it sounded better and better — provided alpha channel, antialiased text and even sounds like it might be Windows based (which is what I really need — 3DS is the one DOS program I actually will make an exception to run). Does this Inscriber thingee meet those qualifications?
#60701From: Paul LindOct 7, 1993 9:20 PM
Unlike every other program you mentioned, Inscriber is actually a Titling program. Outside of full blown dedicated hardware titlers, it doesn't get any better on the PC. Phenomenal Antialiasing, real roll features, etc. The program is available in a variety of flavors from Truecolor VGA to VISTA. The program is marketed by Image North Technologies Inc. 180 King Street South, Suite 360 Waterloo, Ontario, Canada, N2J 1P8 I can probably dig up a number if you want one. Maybe Greg or someone has it handy. Paul
#60734From: James M. MurphyOct 8, 1993 2:37 AM
Paul, >>> Inscriber The program is marketed by Image North Technologies Inc. 180 King Street South, Suite 360 Waterloo, Ontario, Canada, N2J 1P8 I can probably dig up a number if you want one. <<< Paul…. The MainFrame Computer Graphics Ltd. for Inscriber is (416) 391-4500 The Forefront Graphics people are at (416) 636-4444. James M. Murphy
#60768From: Paul LindOct 8, 1993 9:50 AM
Yeah, your right, I forgot about Mainframe. Whoever I replied to should probably call them. Inscriber is owned by Image North Technologies, and All Trademarks and license agreeements are with Image North, but Mainframe does technical support and stuff. Another one of these Yost Group/Autodesk agreement things most likely. We actually just finished developing some really great code for those guys to use with Inscriber. I should've remembered Mainframe. What threw me was the fact that out of four copies of Inscriber and around 15 manuals, Image North Inc. is shown no less than a hundred times with their logo and trademark. The only place you'll find Mainframe mentioned is on a postcard thing under technical support. And it says to only call them if you have a problem that your dealer can't resolve. Now that I think about it, your best bet would probably be findiing an authorized dealer on the forum. There are a number of local dealers out here and I think that's where I first saw Inscriber. I digress ….. If you want the ultimate PC based Titling system, buy Inscriber… Nothing else comes close, and all of the other programs that have been mentioned are drawing/image manipulation programs. You'd have a hard time trying to do automated page rolls and trigger keying from them.
#60867From: James M. MurphyOct 9, 1993 1:27 AM
Hey Paul! How's your Sanyo GVR-S950 holding up? Didn't you say you did 80,000 frames without any dropouts? I'm just plugging in a Matrox Illuminator Pro (top-end) this weekend…I'll let you know how it goes…. if I get any sleep this weekend..he…he. LaTER James M. Murphy
#60887From: Paul LindOct 9, 1993 11:14 AM
It wasn't me…….. It was someone on the forum who was beta testing the thing with I believe. We're strictly BetaSP on this end. Sorry, Paul P.S. – I did get to see the deck in action at a local house and it had numerous dropouts. I personally don't believe that an SVHS deck could lay that many frames with no dropouts. The technology just isn't there. IMHO
#60917From: James M. MurphyOct 9, 1993 1:18 PM
Paul, >> It wasn't me…….. It was someone on the forum who was beta testing the thing with I believe. We're strictly BetaSP on this end. Sorry, Paul << Oh..Oh! I thought it was you! I told a couple of forum members that I thought it was you….maybe you were talking to them in a thread and your name stood out….You wouldn't happen to know who that actually was? I really have to find out now because I've told at least two people I thought it was you. Now I gotta straighten this out….Credibility thing don't-Ja-Know. <BG>
#60923From: Paul LindOct 9, 1993 1:32 PM
James, I'm not really sure about the originator. I seem to remember that it was one of the companies that manufacture controllers. Maybe one of the VLan people. Paul .
#60989From: James M. MurphyOct 9, 1993 9:06 PM
>>> I seem to remember that it was one of the companies that manufacture controllers. Maybe one of the VLan people. <<< If you or anyone else happens to remember who it was that was Beta Testing the Sanyo GVR-S950 and reported 80,000 frames and no dropouts. Please Let me know….in fact have them call me. (414) 435-7345. James M. Murphy
#60957From: MARTIN G FOSTEROct 9, 1993 4:56 PM
James, I believe the person who mentioned the Sanyo was with Videomedia, the company who makes V-LAN and other vtr controllers.
#60991From: James M. MurphyOct 9, 1993 9:06 PM
Martin, >>> I believe the person who mentioned the Sanyo was with Videomedia, the company who makes V-LAN and other vtr controllers. <<< You wouldn't happen to have a phone number or Compuserve ID? Murph'
#61000From: John TissavaryOct 9, 1993 10:30 PM
Bill Stickney with Videomedia (V-LAN) left some messages about the Sanyo, but they weren't favorable. I think a fellow named Suresh Kavan (something like that) bought one and likes it. And there was another company that was testing it and gave it good marks (probably who you were quoting) but I can't remember who. John Tissavary (La Luna cie)
#61165From: James M. MurphyOct 11, 1993 11:50 AM
John, >>> I think a fellow named Suresh Kavan (something like that) bought one and likes it. And there was another company that was testing it and gave it good marks (probably who you were quoting) but I can't remember who. <<< Thanks for the Suresh Kavan name…you wouldn't happen to have his Compserve ID would you? Also I'm looking for anyone who has a longer track record (than mine) with this machine so we can compre notes and testimonials good and bad. No product is perfect I'm considering this as the medium machine in this field. I think that serious animators are going to have to start with this level of equipment to build their businesses UP to the BetaSP and LVR3000 level. Plus this allows for very good "animation checks" prior to sending out any Exabyte/ASDG tapes to a "Post" house. James M. Murphy.
#61166From: James M. MurphyOct 11, 1993 11:50 AM
John, >>> Bill Stickney with Videomedia (V-LAN) left some messages about the Sanyo, but they weren't favorable <<< I was thinking about this and I would like to talk to him also…makes me wonder what he didn't like. So far I'm very happy with the unit. James M. Murphy
#60985From: James M. MurphyOct 9, 1993 9:05 PM
Paul, >> It wasn't me…….. It was someone on the forum who was beta testing the thing with I believe. We're strictly BetaSP on this end. Sorry, Paul << Oh..Oh! I thought it was you! I told a couple of forum members that I thought it was you….maybe you were talking to them in a thread and your name stood out….You wouldn't happen to know who that actually was? I really have to find out now because I've told at least two people I thought it was you. Now I gotta straighten this out….Credibility thing don't-Ja-Know. <BG> James M. Murphy
#60769From: Paul LindOct 8, 1993 9:50 AM
What does Forefront have to do with Inscriber?
#60809From: CSA/CAOct 8, 1993 2:39 PM
Inscriber is a durn fine character generation and titling program. Besides text creation (with drop shadows, borders, glows, gradients, etc.), it handles logos and .TGA images for use in sprite animation and transition effects (various wipes, fades, text scroll & crawl). It runs under DOS, however, although their PostScript font converter uses Windows. This is a great product for real-time presentations, either on computer or recorded to video. And yes, if you're around the Los Angeles area, we sell it. The developer is Image North Technologies, distributed through Mainframe Computer Graphics (both in Canada). Mainframe handles the dealer channel, and refers folks to us or others depending on geographic area.
#60815From: Paul LindOct 8, 1993 3:03 PM
Kevin, Thanks for popping in there! I new that someone along your lines would know all of the low down on how to order it. We have all of the versions, we use it, we love it, we develop for it, but …… we don't sell it! Thanks Again, Paul .
#61184From: Mike KelleyOct 11, 1993 1:28 PM
> It <Inscriber> runs under DOS, however, although their PostScript font converter >uses Windows Then that eliminates it for me — I need a Windows based program since Fast Video requires that (any Windows program can "print" to the Fast Video driver). Besides — I am just not going to mess with any DOS program other than 3DS — the DOS world is dead (and, no, I do NOT want to start up anything in this thread about that). But no one's said whether Altimira is Windows or not. I guess I'll just have to call one of the numbers someone has posted to find out. If it isn't, I guess I'll have to use Visual Basic to automate my Corel for the drop shadows and other goodies… Sigh.
#61239From: CSA/CAOct 11, 1993 6:43 PM
Mike, The purpose of Inscriber is to playback in real-time for direct recording to a VTR. It does so on a frame buffer (such as a Targa+ or ATVista), so it's easy to preview or do final output. Your solution seems more appropriate to more convenient frame-by-frame work. Kevin Krell – Computer Support Associates
#61289From: Bailey BrownOct 11, 1993 11:08 PM
I saw Altimira Composer in this month's Computer Artist. It is Windows.
#61298From: Oct 12, 1993 12:36 AM
Mike: >> But no one's said whether Altimira is Windows or not. Yes, it is Windows. Greg Pyros
#61305From: Schreiber InstrumentsOct 12, 1993 12:59 AM
Altimira is a windows based ap. It also runs fine under Windows NT.
#60778From: Yost GroupOct 8, 1993 10:16 AM
Altamira Composer is a new image-composition/processing program. It juggles multiple bitmaps–each of which include an alpha channel–and the quality of the images is excellent. It works nicely with 3ds, because you can render an image from 3ds with alpha, and then load it into Composer with its alpha. Thus, you can have a bitmap of a tranparent wine glass, for example, that you can just move over any other bitmaps, and see the other bitmaps through it. There a bunch of image processing tools, plus alpha-manipulating tools. To find out more about it, call 415-332-5801. – Jack