CompuServe Thread

#CIS-GIF Situation

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#180853From: Michael SheaJan 5, 1995 4:00 PM
Here is a message from internet on the CIS-Unisys GIF situation. I thought some might be interested. Comments: Gated by NETNEWS@AUVM.AMERICAN.EDU [1] Date: Thu Jan 05 11:36:15 MST 1995 From: Mike Heinz <mheinz@GATEWAY.SSW.COM> [1] GIF tax Lines: 38 > The GIF file format is apparently owned by Compuserve and Unisys, who > are trying to withdraw it from the public domain and demand royalties > for it's use, INCLUDING PAST USE. By the sound of it, anyone who has any > GIF images on thier disks is supposed to pay royalties to Compuserve, > perhaps even if you just have a program capable of reading or writing > GIF files. Nick, This isn't quite correct. According to the Phila. Inquirer, (the home town newspaper for Unisys) the problem is this: Unisys holds the patent on LZW compression. This compression method was used by Compuserve, without Unisys' knowledge or permission, when it developed the GIF file format. Compuserve was apparently unaware of the patent. Unisys, meanwhile, is a mainframe manufacturer, so they aren't the kind of guys who hang around compuserve. It wasn't until last year sometime that they realized that GIFs used LZW compression. Compuserve has agreed to pay a large upfront payment to Unisys for violating the patent, and to pay Unisys royalties on all its future GIF code and GIF transfers. This is where it stands at this point. CIS has agreed that all "official" GIF developers would, from now on, acquire licenses from Unisys. Unisys has stated that it has no intention of harassing individual internet users, but did expect that commercial developers would get licenses to use the LZW code. The preceding was all a paraphrase of the original inquirer article. Unfortunately there is an issue that the article did not mention – unless I'm confused, the current generation of PC compression software, including LHA, PKZIP, etc, use LZW compression! That means all these programs are also in violation of the patent! Lha and Zip are almost universal as file archive formats. If they are truly in violation of the patent, every file transfer across the net, or across BBS systems could be "taxed"! I'm hoping that someone will tell me that Lha and Zip don't use LZW – but no one has, yet. ._ _ _ INTERNET: mshea@math.arizona.edu | | |ichael _>hea COMPUSERVE: 76665,3360
#180912From: Neil WickJan 6, 1995 1:21 AM
> I'm hoping that someone will tell me that Lha and Zip don't use LZW – but no one has, yet. Version 1.x of PKzip uses LZW for most files. Version 2.x was introduced a year or two ago, primarily to avoid using LZW and to avoid the licensing that would entail. The new PKzip uses a single new method for all files and never uses any of the methods that the first one did. In other words, it's really a whole new program. A 2.x PKzip file is really nothing like a 1.x file. PKunzip is still able to de-compress any of the old files. I assume that PKware has cleared this part of it with Unisys. When this issue came up, I immediately thought of the threat to the GIF format, so I'm sure CompuServe did too. LHA uses a different method, developped by Haruyasu Yoshizaki. Neil