CompuServe Thread

#NETWORKING ADVICE

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#61762From: Pat Vernon [ATC TM]Oct 14, 1993 11:03 PM
To all, We are about to install some sort of network for 40 plus 386-486 sysytems. What is the recommendation of the gurus here. Choices are 1.Novell 2.MS NT server 3.Lantastic 4.Unix 5.other -OS2 etc We are looking at acad win, 3ds, win31, wp etc and other sware for a full function DTV and DTP visulization learning lab setting. Several plotters and various printers. Also would you choose thin net coax or 10 based tee. tp etc. I really need help on this and ease of use is a big iten naturally. PAT
#61763From: Paul LindOct 14, 1993 11:12 PM
My recommendation is Novell 3.11 or 4.0, dedicated server. We've had R3 running across 45 nodes simulatneously under this setup and it worked extremely well.
#62030From: Bob WeiblerOct 17, 1993 12:47 AM
Paul, This may be a little off the specific subject here, but here goes. When rendering in a networked environment, what is most important for the slaves?(nodes,terminals?) I'm assuming that hard disk size is not important? Is mega-RAM required at each machine? My first guess is that fast 486's loaded with RAM would give the best performance. I know I could probably look this up, but I hate to tear myself away from the tutorials(g). I thought some real-world experience might also be useful. BTW where are you located? Bob W.
#62057From: Paul LindOct 17, 1993 11:03 AM
Bob, The most important aspects of such an environment include speed/ram/ and system stability. If the network is designed to be a "rendering" farm then nothing else really matters. You'll need a small hard disk in each box to facilitate having the R3 executables on each machine, but beyond that, you don't need anything else. In fact the best thing to do if you're going to set up such a network specifically for rendering, then I'd say avoid buying monitors and keyboards and just use a swithbox tying every ten systems into a single monitor and keyboard. That'll leave you more money for motherboards and ram. We rackmount everything, bring the systems on line, and then dump everything to a network cue. It's fast, little or no maintenance, and unbelievably stable. (As in NEVER a single problem). Additionally, if you're about to buy systems, check out the Pentiums! We've got a number of them running and our performance increases are FAR beyond what some members have reported. Not to mention that while everyone talks about bus throughput for seeing great things on screen, if you're interested in speed, you're looking for sheer processing power, and periphials are not a major factor. You can find Pentium Boards for around $1500 and they are stable and really fly in the rendering world. I've had boards from 5 different manufacturers running for a couple of months now, and haven't had a single problem. Hope I managed to answer your question, I just got up. Paul
#62221From: Bob WeiblerOct 18, 1993 5:39 PM
Thanks for the reply. That is exactly the information I was looking for-including the (unasked but answered anyway) question about the keyboards and monitors! However, you did neglect to tell me where you are located! Thanks again,
#62223From: Paul LindOct 18, 1993 6:11 PM
Sorry about that, I'm in Virginia Beach, VA. Right in the middle of Norfolk Naval Base, NAS Oceana Air Station, and The Naval Undersea Warfare Center. Previously referred to as ground zero. 🙂
#61773From: Oct 14, 1993 11:59 PM
Pat: >> install some sort of network-What is the recommendation of the gurus here. My recommendation is to go with option #4, Unix. Get a Sun SparkStation as a server and hang as many PCs off it as you need to. >> Also would you choose thin net coax or 10 based tee. No question, 10-BaseT is the way to go, _especially_ for a classroom setting!
#61906From: Dennis W. BanaszakOct 15, 1993 9:28 PM
Pat, 1 & 4 require somebody with the appropriate experience to oversee operations on a regular basis. 2 is not yet proven in my humble opinion. 3 is capable and easier to maintain than the others (guess what I use<G>) 5 there are others, OS/2 isn't a network as such though. 10baseT is the only way to go! Dennis P.S. Run a dedicated server regardless of which network you choose.
#61973From: Ken FlesherOct 16, 1993 12:16 PM
Pat: My recommendation is #1 (Novell 3.11). Definitely a dedicated server, too. Get one with good bus speed (EISA, w/32-bit EISA SCSI disk controller and EISA network card). Lots of memory helps, too. Novell has a formula for figuring out how much memory you should have, and I can't remember it, but figure at least 16 MB. Yes, Novell can create a very complicated setup, but only if you want to. The install for 3.11 is easier than you think. I was amazed how easy it was to do 10BaseT wiring. Get a good RJ45 crimping tool and spend a few more dollars for Level 5 cable (so it will support 100 MBit/sec transfer in the future). Most 10BaseT cards and hubs have builtin diagnostic LEDs – if you get a green light at both ends when you plug in the cable, you're all set. If not, cut off the end, re-crimp a new connector (no stripping required!), and try again. I wired up 11 machines in a couple of hours without a single error. Install Windows, AutoCAD, 3DS, Softdesk, etc., on the server and run from there. So much easier to maintain. PC Magazine just did an article on Network systems, but I haven't had a chance to get to that layer of my mail pile yet, so I can't tell you what's in it. That's what I get for leaving for a week!! Good luck, and let us know what you decide. -KLF