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#Copyrights & Ethics

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#61582From: ROBERT RITGEROct 13, 1993 10:36 PM
I can easily understand the time savings involved in purchasing pre-modelled meshes but I'm also a poor architect so anything free fits nicely into my budget. This is why I thought swapping meshes of common elements (ie. people, furniture, trees, equipment) would be a common practice. None of these common elements are going to win my firm a commission, the architecture will. (I hope! :-]) >>> And in terms of manhours spent building furniture for instance, its alot more cost effective to buy it prebuilt. <<< You probably know this but I only came across this a few weeks ago. Steelcase, one of this country's largest furniture manufacturers, packages up and sends out their product line on 19 diskettes which includes a software tie-in to autocadd. The furniture items are available in 2d and 3d and number approximately 1600! That's not bad for free! I'm currently tracking down other furniture manufacturers to see if similar software is available. If you or anyone else knows of a good source please let me know. I know of one CD-ROM developer who is contatcting these same companies to try to include these meshes on his CD. Pack enough goodies onto the disk, put together a nice visual table of contents, keep the price down to almost free and we architects would go for that.
#61587From: John EllisOct 13, 1993 11:26 PM
Robert, I think in time there will be alot more public domain meshes, and modelers will be contracted for specialized models. Recently I created a Televison set for Scripps Clinic. They don't actually have a set or stage to do a "Broadcast" from, so we created one and will be Ulti-matteing the "Reporters" into the set. We created different "Camera" angles for the two shots and close-ups etc. Meshes, like the production of animations, are still going to have to be individualised for specific applications. But alot of the more common elements like furniture etc are already being produced and as you've pointed out even given away. The "world creating toolkit ™" concept that came with 3D Studio R2 was a big step in this direction and even included people. I haven't seen the new R3 disk yet but I suspect there is even more of the same. If you're primarily working in the conceptual stage with your renderings you can create simple clean furniture to give a sense of proportion and style. There are some really simple furnishings provided on the WCT CD-ROM in some of the buildings etc,. cars, street lights etc,. all of which can be imported into your scene. For more photorealism however, you're going to need some attractive furniture, but as it stands now, and I suspect for quite awhile, you're either going to have to buy them or build them. And like most things that are worth something you're going to have to pay. There is too much time and effort involved to just simply give them away. Of course you can aways get some free advice around here <G>, well almost free :-). You also might look into PPG for doors and framing. Are you a 3DS user? -JE
#61794From: ROBERT RITGEROct 15, 1993 1:47 AM
>>>You also might look into PPG for doors and framing. Are you a 3DS user?<<< Do you have a number/name of someone at PPG? I just started getting into 3ds and I hope to make it the majority of my work day. I have been doing 3d CADD modelling for about 6 years but it wasn't until 3ds came along that I could afford to render and animate my own creations. I had to rely on a consultant to perform these services in wavefront.
#61834From: John EllisOct 15, 1993 11:08 AM
Robert – Your certainly picked the right package with 3DS, and this is an unbiased opinion. And what a great time to become involved with 3DS :-). As for PPG, that was several years ago. I'm not sure what their current situation is. Another possibility is Anderson Windows and Siding. It is possible that someone over in the ACAD forum might know. You might check over there. Quite a few of the meshes on the CD came from ACAD models originally. Anyway Congratulations! -JE
#61674From: Jonas Ruikis [ADESK]Oct 14, 1993 12:13 PM
Do you have a number for Steelcase?
#61878From: SyndesisOct 15, 1993 4:07 PM
Steelcase is at (616) 247-2614, 8am-8pm. Ask for the ordering department, then ask for the "furniture symbol library", and tell them you're not a Steelcase dealer but simply an end-user. It's available in Autocad, Microstation, and Ares versions. It's free.