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#DMM Scene Uploaded

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#66280From: BRENT W. MALNACKOct 15, 1993 5:01 PM
Tony, I uploaded a DMM scene to the Amiga Arts Forum in the 3D directory. I'll upload more on Monday. If anyone wants it, go ahead and download it and expect more on Monday. Thanks… BTW, the scene was created with two dynamic slabs positioned in LW. The lower slab has been set to cancel gravity. The higher slab is affected by gravity. The resulting collision is the result of the top slab hitting the second one. Brent
#66296From: Marlene Zenker/SYSOPOct 15, 1993 10:42 PM
I just approved that file to the AmigaArts library. I loaded it into Lightwave and did a wire frame preview. Looked pretty cool! Steve
#67198From: Daniel San MiguelOct 28, 1993 4:06 AM
Brent, I took the liberty of showing the DMM scenes you had uploaded to the Amiga Arts forum to Lee Stranahan at a seminar he was teaching in Hawaii. He was intrigued with the product, but seemed concerned that it would be difficult to edit the resulting scene file. Of course, he is an expert at constructing motion paths "manually". I asked him again at the end of the day what he thought of DMM, and as I remember, he said "The results looked good, and the price is right." Just thought you might appreciate the positive feedback. Looks like an exciting product. Keep up the good work! By the way, I'm sure I would be interested in an filter for the DMM which would reduce the number of key frames generated. Sometimes an approximation of reality would be preferable to avoid the extra key frames.
#66355From: Anthony RamirezOct 17, 1993 12:01 AM
>I uploaded a DMM scene to the Amiga Arts Forum in the 3D directory. Yeah I got it about 1 hour before going to the meeting, they were very impress. I can't wait to see the more complicated ones. How long did it take DMM to calculate this scene? When you u/l the other scenes could you post the time it took to figure out?
#66448From: BRENT W. MALNACKOct 18, 1993 2:45 PM
That first scene took about a minute. The one I'm uploading today took about two minutes. More on the way. I'm glad they liked it!!!
#66458From: Peter GreciOct 18, 1993 3:52 PM
How Complex is the scene you sent up today? I fiddled about with the "Stone Slabs" one on a Bud's Toaster. BTW please if possible include a README in the Archive of the Scenes.
#66532From: BRENT W. MALNACKOct 19, 1993 9:53 AM
Peter, One of the scenes I uploaded (DMMJack.lzh) is a bit more complex. It is not without flaws however. The other scenes (DMMFlub.lzh) are very basic and as for the flubber, quite silly. As the week progresses, I will continue to upload better scenes. Anyone wanna try and top the number of scenes on my hard drive right now? Brent
#66570From: Marlene Zenker/SYSOPOct 19, 1993 5:03 PM
If I had the software, I'd give it a shot! 🙂 How much is it going to cost, and when is it going to be ready. I merged those archives to the AmigaArts libraries last night after I had a chance to check them at them. Really neat stuff! Is there a limit to the number of objects in the scene? Have you tried doing a "bowling ball striking bowling pins" scene yet? How about a swinging chain? Steve
#66579From: Peter GreciOct 19, 1993 5:12 PM
Thanx for the info. I'll try to grab the new scenes tonight.
#66614From: Anthony RamirezOct 20, 1993 1:12 AM
Brent, could you explain how DMM is used? Does it require a VT/LW in the same machine? Does it directly talk to LW? Does one make the scene in LW first then load it into DMM for convertion? Are you tired of me asking questions? :^) <<< Tony D. Tracer >>>
#66687From: BRENT W. MALNACKOct 21, 1993 10:37 AM
Tony, All that is necessary to run DMM is a LightWave Scene file and the associated objects. Once loaded into DMM, attributes can be set, and a wire-frame preview can be viewed. Our preview window is essentially a duplication of LW's, allowing top, side, front, or perspective viewing. Changes can be made and viewed again without having to load the scene back into LW. When you are happy with the scene, it may be saved as a LW scene file, exported to LW (providing its running), or your work may be saved in our own proprietary format for later modification. (Along with the scene file, object characteristics such as mass and elasticity are saved.) I did upload more scenes, which may have been combined into one larger file. I seem to remember reading mail from the sysop saying something like that. In any case, more scenes will be uploaded over the weekend. I encourage anyone to upload these scenes to other systems like Genie and Internet. This will save me some time. As far as the questions go, keep them coming. We've been implementing new features based on feedback from callers and this forum. Thanks again. Brent
#66705From: Marlene Zenker/SYSOPOct 21, 1993 5:03 PM
They're still in individual archives. Steve
#66765From: Anthony RamirezOct 22, 1993 4:25 PM
Thanks Brent. I have d/l'ed all the scene files and am eagerly waiting more. I'll u/l them to local BSSs as well as show them to the local User group. <<< Tony D. Tracer >>>
#66810From: Paul ToalOct 23, 1993 6:48 AM
Brent- Do you have a provision for static and kinetic friction? Can we have zero gravity?
#66821From: BRENT W. MALNACKOct 23, 1993 11:10 AM
Paul, As for static and kinetic fiction, I don't think they will make it in version 1.0. Gravity can be entered to any value you like. By default, it is set to the earth's gravity. (Any object can be omitted from gravity by clicking on a cancel gravity button.) There will also be a pull-down menu with gravity for the planets in our solar-system, or even the moon. Does anyone remember the chart that Spy magazine ran listing Elvis' weight on the different planets at the time of his death? Thanks. Brent
#66927From: Vernon GranerOct 25, 1993 1:31 AM
I might be asking the wrong person this, but from the previos post I was led to believe that you have an interest in the Dynamic Motion Module for lightwave. If so then a question: I have a business client that does 3D accident recreation for lawsuits. Does the dynamic motion module produce accurate enough results that they will stand up in a court of law as expert testimony? If so, this could save them alot of time and expense in gettin expert cerifications and I'm sure they would be most anxious to buy this product.
#67014From: BRENT W. MALNACKOct 26, 1993 8:58 AM
Vernon, The use of computer graphics for accident reconstruction is still a pretty controversial subject. Sometimes it is best used to refute testimony than to uphold it. For instance, if the defendant claims he was driving at 30 mph at the time of collision, it would be fairly easy to discount that by running the numbers through Dynamic Motion Module. If DMM showed the vehicles much closer than actually happened, it is likely that the defendant was moving faster than 30 mph. Dynamic Motion Module is as accurate as programs of this nature can be. There are always some factors that cannot be accounted for, such as the amount of oil on the surface of an asphalt road due to the abnormally hot sun. Also, DMM would be best used with data acquired from the experts, such as engineers and state patrol personnel. In any case, DMM should easily be more effective than traditional means, such as chalkboards, or slides. Plus, a printout of the file would show its accuracy and would stand as accurate based on the factors considered. The bottom line is, DMM should reduce the work and increase the accuracy of these simulations. Brent
#66613From: Anthony RamirezOct 20, 1993 1:12 AM
>More on the way. I'm glad they liked it!!! I am sure the next meeting will be more interesting with the other scenes you have comming. <<< Tony D. Tracer >>>