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#Small R3 bugs.

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#62752From: Ian ChristieOct 21, 1993 4:54 PM
Well, I have a Micronics 486-66 VL bus mb. Hercules Graphite 2Meg VLB. 64meg ram Always SCSI adapter. It has no ram shadowing (or any fancy CMOS settings). It crashes with or without QEMM, even if the only driver running is Hercules' VESA driver (latest version.) Trouble is it takes a while to try out a new configuation because the crashes are intermitant and sometimes hours apart (sometimes minutes.)
#62770From: Yost GroupOct 21, 1993 7:25 PM
Well, I can guarantee you that it's not 3DS, and that it's _something_ that's going on in your particular configuration. You can try replacing the Herc card with a stock VGA card and see if that does it. Also, are you experiencing these problems after creating a swap file?
#62899From: Ian ChristieOct 22, 1993 5:51 PM
Well, I'm glad to hear that my problem is not from 3DS, though it does a good job of revealing it <g>. 3DS is the only program that I have trouble with (in fact, 3DS2 did not display this trouble.) I'll try replacing the Herc card when I can afford to have my computer out of commission for a while. I hate messing with the hardware, some hard-to-solve problem always precedes an emergency job! Swap file? What swap file? I think some swap file parameter thingies were setup during installation (drive d:) but I haven't done anything withy them since. I have 64meg of ram so the computer rarely swaps to disk anyway.
#62911From: Yost GroupOct 22, 1993 6:05 PM
I doubt that you've got any other applications that use Phar Lap 5.0. 3DSr2 used Phar lap 2.6, and they're completely different. PL5.0 is actually more rigorous than 2.6 was due to it's need to be DPMI and VCPI-compliant simultaneously. That's the price you pay for Windows compatibility in Phar Lap land.
#63015From: Ian ChristieOct 23, 1993 5:04 PM
Maybe some day we'll get a real (32 bit) operating system and we won't have to jump through so many hoops. Or will we be jumping though 64bit hoops in a 32 bit OS <g>?
#62962From: John TissavaryOct 23, 1993 12:18 AM
Ian, I know Greg Pyros uses Hercules Graphite cards in every one of his machines (20 or so) and has no problems. Perhaps there is something else buggering Pharlap. I'll agree, though, pharlap sure is fickle these days. Took me some time to get things running trouble free.
#62995From: Oct 23, 1993 1:24 PM
John: >> I know Greg Pyros uses Hercules Graphite cards in every one of his >> machines (20 or so)… Actually, we only have five Graphites, we need to keep a stable of the others also to support our clients who have other cards. It is, however, my personal favorite due to it's speed and the drivers available for it.
#63017From: Ian ChristieOct 23, 1993 5:08 PM
I may have it. I relaces the Herc card to test it with my old ATI VGA Wonder (which worked.) when I replaced the Graphite I straightened out a couple of chokes on the board that looked a bit askew, and I haven't had a crash since! Well yet… I don't like to speak to soon when dealing with intermitant problems.
#63055From: John TissavaryOct 24, 1993 12:04 AM
>> I don't like to speak to soon when dealing with intermitant problems.<< BOY do I know how that goes! Glad you've got it straightened out for now.
#63130From: Ian ChristieOct 24, 1993 4:38 PM
Durn! I DID speak too soon! The bug is back…well, just have to save often I suppose.
#63200From: John TissavaryOct 25, 1993 2:37 AM
AAAAAaaaarrrrggghhhh!!!!! Sorry to hear the bug is back. John Tissavary (La Luna cie)
#62981From: Angelo Guarino [DTI Inc]Oct 23, 1993 10:31 AM
People are having a problem with the Herc Graphite? Ours are running without a hitch with r3
#62988From: John SchmidtOct 23, 1993 11:28 AM
Have you had any luck running 3DS r3 under Windows using the Graphite? I haven't been able to get them to work correctly yet…they work great running under DOS; if you have any tricks for running under Windows, (memory exclusions, etc.), it would be much appreciated.
#63091From: Angelo Guarino [DTI Inc]Oct 24, 1993 12:41 PM
John, >> running under Windows No .. I havn't tried it .. and honestly probably won't. We have enough systems around that it doesn't make sence to take the performance hits. I will probably investigate it a little just for customer support sake. Do you have the latest drivers for the Graphite? (2.1 I think) Ang