#CDK Questions
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We are looking at various apps to create environments for a client. I am
interested in CDK because it's a PC app which is the delivery system of choice
for the client.
The following outlines the basic for the deck, along with observations to
date..
comments are welcome.
The environment/ or deck would comprise a large number of objects, which could
be Viewpoint, or maybe digitized. The degree of accuracy would not need to be
what I have been told is two points out (Architectural accracy). ie: an apple
looks like an apple etc..
The viewer would walk through the deck, though they might not need to pick up
objects/move them. I gather this would reduce the need for high-level accuracy?
I would like the the ability to link decks so that if the participant walks
down a hall from one deek to another, the system will flush the first while
loading the next.
Does CDK render only what is in the frame?
I would also like the ability to add zoom hooks, so that when depressed it
would teleport the viewer to another section. I gather from the lit I have that
hypertext
is not very difficult to add.
—
1. Is there the ability to automate scripting/ create an icon based
medaphor?
2. Information and suggestions on Renderware, SP3D, etc.
3. 12-15fps now with phong shading? 20-25 fps w/ glint card.?
The level of quality needed would be Gouraud, or phong 16bit with at least
12fps min.
The delivery system would likley be desk-top, maybe with a Stereo Graphics 120
mhz shutter glass system.
Would a dual Pentium offer advantages in pps rendering?
These questions are just off the top of my head, more detailed will follow. If
there are any experienced users, I would like to converse and maybe discuss
actual work.
Regards
Gilbert
ImageWorks
Hi Gilbert,
<< These questions are just off the top of my head, more detailed will follow.
If there are any experienced users, I would like to converse and maybe discuss
actual work. >>
Great questions and welcome to the forum. I'll forward your post to the CDK
team.
I'm sure one of them will jump in. 🙂
jonas[adesk]
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As I understand this message, the references to "deck" below really refer to
CDK spaces.
> We are looking at various apps to create environments for a client. I am
> interested in CDK because it's a PC app which is the delivery system of
> choice for the client. The following outlines the basic for the deck, along
> with observations to date.. comments are welcome.
One possible source of confusion is the fact that the CDK is not an app but a
toolkit and would require a C++ programmer to create the walkthrough app you
describes.
> The environment/ or deck would comprise a large number of objects, which
> could be Viewpoint, or maybe digitized. The degree of accuracy would not
> need to be what I have been told is two points out (Architectural accracy).
> ie: an apple looks like an apple etc..
>
> The viewer would walk through the deck, though they might not need to pick
> up objects/move them. I gather this would reduce the need for high-level
> accuracy?
It would certainly make the programming job easier.
> I would like the the ability to link decks so that if the participant walks
> down a hall from one deek to another, the system will flush the first while
> loading the next. Does CDK render only what is in the frame?
Multiple CDK spaces can be created, destroyed and swapped between easily to
achieve the desired effect. The CDK renders whatever is in the current space
with minimal culling efforts although there is nothing to preclude more
aggressive culling by application derived objects.
> I would also like the ability to add zoom hooks, so that when depressed it
> would teleport the viewer to another section. I gather from the lit I have
> that hypertext is not very difficult to add.
"Teleportation" as you described above is easy. If you're refering to some
sort of actuall text handling, there is nothing in the CDK to support that,
though again nothing to preclude a developer from adding it.
> 1. Is there the ability to automate scripting/ create an icon based
> medaphor?
Clearly an application level issue.
> 2. Information and suggestions on Renderware, SP3D, etc.
Criterion has expressed interest in writing a driver for the CDK and we've
supplied them with some assistance. You should contact them for information.
We do ship a driver for the RenderMorphics Reality Library which
has the same sorts of features and speeds. You would need to licence the RL
library from them separately.
We also ship our own fast software renderer and a HOOPS renderer and library
in-the-box which may be sufficient for many applications and will provide at
least a jumpstart for any development effort.
> 3. 12-15fps now with phong shading? 20-25 fps w/ glint card.?
>
> The level of quality needed would be Gouraud, or phong 16bit with at least
> 12fps min. The delivery system would likley be desk-top, maybe with a
> Stereo Graphics 120 mhz shutter glass system.
>
> Would a dual Pentium offer advantages in pps rendering?
Metrics for the RenderWare library and others should be gotten from the
vendors. The CDK should not create a performance bottleneck when driving any
of these renders.
– Daniel Green
daniel.green@autodesk.com
Hi Gilbert
I'm not a current CDK user but have familarity with a wide range of VR type
software. Your complexity and frame rates are probably beyond the capabilities
of a CDK system without a signficant 3D rendering accelerator board (perhaps
the new Fujitsu/Future Vision board?). The lack of interaction other than
motion/zoom also reduces the need for a system of the sophistication of CDK.
Hate to dis the locals, but I think some of the other packages might be better
suited to your requirements.
Do you still have my number? call or email me.
jerry isdale
Jerry:
Just received the FVT/Fujitsu Sapphire 2SX
* Three can be chained together
* 64bit
* Glint chip
* OpenGL, 3DR and Realityware
* up to 16MB local buffer
>>The lack of interaction other than motion/zoom also reduces the need for a
system of the sophistication of CDK.<<
They may want to intgrate wands to link environments, or later add hypercard. I
want to create in as open a program as possible.
>>but I think some of the other packages might be better suited to your
requirements.<<
Whis apps are you refering to?
Of course we might create on an SGI (am working with Myron Krueger these days
on walk throughs), and mirgate to a PC.? If the PC's are not totally up to the
task, I think they soon will be.
>>Do you still have my number? call or email me.<<
I have your email, however why don't you send me your phone line again.
Gilebrt