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#Compared to ACT?

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#47043From: Stuart M. SchwartzSep 25, 1994 8:10 PM
I'm looking at switching from ACT to DTS. I have found that ACT is a great contact manager but inadequate for much else. I would appreciate any feedback from people who have used both. I have tried a few other programs ECCO, Organizer and Packrat but seem to lose more than I gained switching from ACT. How is DTS at contac managment, and will I miss anything that ACT does that DTS doesn't do or do well? Thanks Stu
#47056From: Bernard G. HallSep 25, 1994 10:53 PM
Dear Stuart: I haven't used ACT 2.0, but did use ACT 1.0 for Windows for a while. I found ACT pretty good, but somewhat inflexible. I find DeskTop generally better in most areas. I have had problems with bugs though in version 4.1a, but I understand 4.1b is coming out, and I would expect this to have fixed the glitches. On the whole, a very worthwhile switch, and one that I'm sure you will not regret. Bernie.
#47239From: Scott G. LutherSep 26, 1994 5:22 PM
Stuart, I've been using ACT! for several months now (after trying ECCO, Ascend, etc.). I bought Okna's DTS a few months ago and I've been studying it a thinking about switching. Last week I did finally switched to DTS. Here are some stray thoughts… — All in all, I like DTS. It's an enigmatic mixed bag. It has its annoying/surprising omissions and its odd quirks, but one thing is obvious when I'm using it: DTS was designed and written by someone that REALLY, REALLY THOUGHT ABOUT WHAT REAL LIVE HUMAN USERS NEED. Okna has addressed real usability, not feature sheet checklists (although their product looks great even on a feature list). (Contrast Okna against ACT! which, for example, can't even compare my area code with my caller's and automatically strip the area code when it's not needed — offices move and computers travel) — I really miss ACT!'s History List. It could record all field changes to contact records, events, etc. As far as I can tell DTS does not have such a thing. There are lists of calls and notes, but nothing as straightforward and automatic as ACT!'s history. — I wish the TODO items would associate themselves with their associated calendar day, and stay there even when they're completed. DTS's TO DO "paradigm" <buzz word alert> seems to be more like "a list of all the stuff that I need to do, and when I need it done" rather that a list of "things to do today / things done last Thursday." I'm betting that Okna's approach has advantages, and — Okna desperately needs a "Zen of DTS" manual. A "How To Do It" book. Hang in there. It is taking me time to figure out DTS's style for doing what I need. Several things that seemed ridiculously clumsy or impossible have started to settle down as I figure out the proper DTS mind set. I wish their docs did a better job of walking us though sample business weeks and telling us, "When you want to use DTS to help you with blah blah, try doing such and such. And here's why that makes sense in the grand DTS scheme of things…" — DTS's address book import was a pain. I love the fact that DTS has a large multi-line note field for every contact (unlike ACT!'s limited-length USER fields). But I had to export ACT! to a TXT file and then massage the file to merge my separate ACT! USER notes into one DTS note field. It was worth the trouble, but I'd urge OKNA to make ACT! imports fast for our instant gratification. — This is an excellent product. I love using it. I'm a professional programmer and I'm constantly admiring the technical effort and dedication it took to make this program (DTS) happen. I've decided to live with DTS's shortcomings and quirks because I'm betting that Okna will address them all on future releases — and with the same artful style. Well, back to my own little programming job. I hope this helps. –Scott
#47375From: Stuart M. SchwartzSep 27, 1994 2:39 PM
Scott, Thanks for your reply. I noticed you, like me, have tried Ecco before. How would you compare the learning curve between Ecco and DTS? I found Ecco to have a fairly steep learning curve so it took me awhile to decide I didn't like it. Also have you looked at Goldmine, it is the only other one I am considering at this point? Thanks Stu
#47471From: Scott G. LutherSep 28, 1994 12:34 AM
Stuart, >> Thanks for your reply. I noticed you, like me, have tried Ecco before. How >> would you compare the learning curve between Ecco and DTS? Ecco's learning curve seemed much steeper than DTS if I really wanted to take advantage of its appealing outline and database features. On top of that, I especially needed the basics, like an excellent address book — ECCO seemed much too anemic. DTS's learning curve seems different. More like learning you way around a new town — whereas ECCO was a bit more like learning to speak a foreign language. >> Also have you looked at Goldmine, it is the only other one I am considering >> at this point? I have not used Goldmine. It caught my attention several months ago when I started looking. I took a hard look at its features, etc., but something about its implementation stopped me from ordering. I don't really remember anything concrete. There's something intrinsically exciting about this PIM stuff… maybe its potential to empower… I swear, if I had an extra life I'd just love to study all the good points of the various PIMs out there and set out to build something so totally excellent that it would sweep the market. Just imagine it… Ascend's turbo file… ACT!'s history list… CrossTie's document interconnections… I'm still betting on Konstantin, et al., and Okna to do just this. They could pull it off. <eek, I'm getting weird> –Scott