#Compared to ACT?
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I'm looking at switching from ACT to DTS. I have found that ACT is a great
contact manager but inadequate for much else. I would appreciate any feedback
from people who have used both. I have tried a few other programs ECCO,
Organizer and Packrat but seem to lose more than I gained switching from ACT.
How is DTS at contac managment, and will I miss anything that ACT does that DTS
doesn't do or do well?
Thanks
Stu
Dear Stuart:
I haven't used ACT 2.0, but did use ACT 1.0 for Windows for a while. I found
ACT pretty good, but somewhat inflexible. I find DeskTop generally better in
most areas. I have had problems with bugs though in version 4.1a, but I
understand 4.1b is coming out, and I would expect this to have fixed the
glitches.
On the whole, a very worthwhile switch, and one that I'm sure you will not
regret.
Bernie.
Stuart,
I've been using ACT! for several months now (after trying ECCO, Ascend, etc.).
I bought Okna's DTS a few months ago and I've been studying it a thinking about
switching.
Last week I did finally switched to DTS. Here are some stray thoughts…
— All in all, I like DTS. It's an enigmatic mixed bag. It has its
annoying/surprising omissions and its odd quirks, but one thing is obvious when
I'm using it: DTS was designed and written by someone that REALLY, REALLY
THOUGHT ABOUT WHAT REAL LIVE HUMAN USERS NEED. Okna has addressed real
usability, not feature sheet checklists (although their product looks great
even on a feature list).
(Contrast Okna against ACT! which, for example, can't even compare my area code
with my caller's and automatically strip the area code when it's not needed —
offices move and computers travel)
— I really miss ACT!'s History List. It could record all field changes to
contact records, events, etc. As far as I can tell DTS does not have such a
thing. There are lists of calls and notes, but nothing as straightforward and
automatic as ACT!'s history.
— I wish the TODO items would associate themselves with their associated
calendar day, and stay there even when they're completed. DTS's TO DO
"paradigm" <buzz word alert> seems to be more like "a list of all the stuff
that I need to do, and when I need it done" rather that a list of "things to do
today / things done last Thursday." I'm betting that Okna's approach has
advantages, and
— Okna desperately needs a "Zen of DTS" manual. A "How To Do It" book. Hang in
there. It is taking me time to figure out DTS's style for doing what I need.
Several things that seemed ridiculously clumsy or impossible have started to
settle down as I figure out the proper DTS mind set. I wish their docs did a
better job of walking us though sample business weeks and telling us, "When you
want to use DTS to help you with blah blah, try doing such and such. And here's
why that makes sense in the grand DTS scheme of things…"
— DTS's address book import was a pain. I love the fact that DTS has a large
multi-line note field for every contact (unlike ACT!'s limited-length USER
fields). But I had to export ACT! to a TXT file and then massage the file to
merge my separate ACT! USER notes into one DTS note field. It was worth the
trouble, but I'd urge OKNA to make ACT! imports fast for our instant
gratification.
— This is an excellent product. I love using it. I'm a professional programmer
and I'm constantly admiring the technical effort and dedication it took to make
this program (DTS) happen. I've decided to live with DTS's shortcomings and
quirks because I'm betting that Okna will address them all on future releases
— and with the same artful style.
Well, back to my own little programming job. I hope this helps.
–Scott
Scott,
Thanks for your reply. I noticed you, like me, have tried Ecco before. How
would you compare the learning curve between Ecco and DTS? I found Ecco to have
a fairly steep learning curve so it took me awhile to decide I didn't like it.
Also have you looked at Goldmine, it is the only other one I am considering at
this point?
Thanks
Stu
Stuart,
>> Thanks for your reply. I noticed you, like me, have tried Ecco before. How
>> would you compare the learning curve between Ecco and DTS?
Ecco's learning curve seemed much steeper than DTS if I really wanted to take
advantage of its appealing outline and database features. On top of that, I
especially needed the basics, like an excellent address book — ECCO seemed
much too anemic.
DTS's learning curve seems different. More like learning you way around a new
town — whereas ECCO was a bit more like learning to speak a foreign language.
>> Also have you looked at Goldmine, it is the only other one I am considering
>> at this point?
I have not used Goldmine. It caught my attention several months ago when I
started looking. I took a hard look at its features, etc., but something about
its implementation stopped me from ordering. I don't really remember anything
concrete.
There's something intrinsically exciting about this PIM stuff… maybe its
potential to empower…
I swear, if I had an extra life I'd just love to study all the good points of
the various PIMs out there and set out to build something so totally excellent
that it would sweep the market. Just imagine it… Ascend's turbo file…
ACT!'s history list… CrossTie's document interconnections… I'm still
betting on Konstantin, et al., and Okna to do just this. They could pull it
off.
<eek, I'm getting weird>
–Scott