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3DS Special Effects Book

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#127864From: Jon A. BellOct 8, 1994 11:37 AM
Kevin, I just received a Federal Expressed author's copy of "3D Studio Special Effects," and all I can say is — WOW. The book is absolutely beautiful, and I'm proud to be a part of it. One interesting thing I noticed: on page 109, Effect 11 is a picture of Keith A. Seifert's "Energy Shield" effect; a picture of a laser beam impacting upon a forcefield surrounding a spaceship. I did a double-take when I saw this: the spaceship in the picture is mine! I built this _years_ ago at Antic Publishing as a CAD-3D 2.0 model, and I have no idea how it got out into the public! I've gotta call Keith and find out where he got this. It's amazing to see this model after all these years. Again, congratulations on the book. Talk to you soon. — Jon
#127963From: SyndesisOct 9, 1994 11:14 AM
What's the name of the CAD-3D ship you made? I might be able to tell you where it's been uploaded. I think a lot of the models made by various folks associated with Antic have drifted out over the years. BTW, we do import CAD-3D v1 and v2 files in InterChange, and can convert them directly to 3DS files, complete with sixteen colors. 🙂
#127973From: Jon A. BellOct 9, 1994 1:34 PM
John, It's been so long since I built it, I have no idea what I called it! (I no longer have a copy of it, as I got rid of my ST 5 years ago.) It might've been something like FIGHTER or CRUISER; it could've been something even more imaginative, like SPACESHP. <g> Anyway, it was pretty wild seeing this old CAD 3D model in there; like seeing an old friend again. If I'd known that Keith was going to use it for his example, I'd've built him something more up-to-date! — Jon
#128016From: SyndesisOct 9, 1994 8:33 PM
Hey, data is data! If you have any old CAD-3D objects, I'd be glad to read the disks and convert them to 3DS for you. (I've still got Amigas here, they can read them.) I think Antic had some freely distributable collections of CAD-3D models as well as their specific collections. Some of these collections mysteriously changed hands when Antic went bust, then that company changed names, I think they were still selling / flogging 🙂 some of those models as recently as a year ago. And certainly some of Anderson's models have shown up in recent 3DS advertising.
#128183From: Aleksey PopelyukhinOct 10, 1994 5:50 PM
Would you please let me know what the information on the book is so that I too can order it? (i.e., ISBN Number, title, etc.?)
#128248From: Oct 10, 1994 10:50 PM
Alex: I have the "3DS Special Effects" book here, I will read you the info: The ISBN # is 1-56205-303-5. It is put out by New Riders Publishing, copyright 1994. (duh!) The authors are listed as: Jon Bell, Steven Elliott, Tim Forcade, Martin Foster, Philip Miller, Greg Phillips, Greg Pyros, Keith Seifert, Richard Sher, and David Stinnett. Hope that helps! Greg Pyros
#128281From: Robert A. WeilOct 11, 1994 3:30 AM
Greg – Bringing any copies to this Saturday's meeting, by any chance? Sure to be a willing group, since we'll be discussing Pennello and Razor. . . bob
#128374From: Oct 11, 1994 4:11 PM
Bob: I'll be happy to bring a copy of "3D Studio Special Effects" to the user's group meeting this Saturday! Greg Pyros
#128809From: Matthew MorrillOct 13, 1994 10:52 AM
3D Studio Special Effects, ISBN: 1-56205-303-5, published by New Riders Publishing. You should be able to find it in most book stores or go to the Macmillan Computer Publishing Forum (GO MACMILLAN). Matthew Morrill Managing Editor – NRP
#128948From: alec jasonOct 13, 1994 9:37 PM
FYI, The book is not (yet?) available in Barnes & Noble, Berkeley, CA. Alec Jason
#128964From: Kouros MoghaddamOct 13, 1994 11:26 PM
That's right., The book is not available anywhere. Please STOP announcing bookstore names. I have called every place you could think of. The fastest way to get it is to call New Riders and order it. They have it in stock. But as she put it, it will take from 7 to 10 WORKING days to get to you. KOUOS
#129053From: Carl FinchOct 14, 1994 1:21 PM
Heytudio 14-Oct-94 20:32:04 >> you can always do a screen dump to a file and crop what you need. << Thanks for replying, Jonas. I'm familiar with Screen-Grab. But unless I'm overlooking the obvious, screen-grabbing doesn't really help me at all. None of the editor display options remove hidden lines. My wooden fence models are composed of great numbers of rectangular solids–even with Backface displayed they look a mess in the editor.
#129467From: Paul GiovaniniOct 17, 1994 4:35 PM
I like to order the 3DS Special Effects book. Can you give me the fax number of Digimation so I can send you a order. I'll hope Digimation accept creditcard.
#129473From: Digimation – David AvgikOct 17, 1994 5:01 PM
Hi Paul, Our FAX number is (504) 785-2940. We take VISA, Master Card and American Express.
#129126From: john h grabauOct 14, 1994 10:52 PM
Matthew, I got my copy today (Fri 14Oct94), but I ordered two weeks ago. I am new to 3DS but not to computer manuals. This will be another classic, (the animation intent, the method, the alternatives, and the presentation) <it> will be studied for years. Could it be the shortage is based on demand? Is NRP easy to find in Indy? jhg
#129151From: Darrin SabinOct 15, 1994 5:10 AM
This could just be a rumor, but I canceled my order and ordered it from Digimation. Paul Boyd reported that someone from NPR told him that they were sold out! When I canceled my order, they told me that they would credit my account, and if I should happen to receive the book anyway, go ahead and keep it! I don't know about the rest of you, but if I were waiting on this book for several weeks and someone out there got a freebie, I'd be a little upset. Don't worry. If I get a second, I'll post an "up-for-grabs" message here. Hey NPR. Can't you see how hungry we are for this book? PRINT PRINT PRINT <G>. Can't wait 'til it/they arrive. Later, Darrin Sabin
#129633From: Forcade & AssociatesOct 18, 1994 11:01 AM
>> This could just be a rumor, but I canceled my order and >> ordered it from Digimation. Paul Boyd reported that someone >> from NPR told him that they were sold out! >> When I canceled my order, they told me that they would credit >> my account, and if I should happen to receive the book >> anyway, go ahead and keep it! I don't know about the rest of >> you, but if I were waiting on this book for several weeks and >> someone out there got a freebie, I'd be a little upset. >> Don't worry. If I get a second, I'll post an "up-for-grabs" >> message here. >> Hey NPR. Can't you see how hungry we are for this book? >> PRINT PRINT PRINT <G>. >> Can't wait 'til it/they arrive. >> Later, Darrin Sabin Darrin, Of course you didn't get the book you ordered from NPR, they were trying to ship you "All Things considered". Of course if you want a book, then try NRP (New Riders Publishing). <bg> Terry Gilbert Forcade & Associates
#130090From: Carl FinchOct 20, 1994 2:20 AM
>> NPR … "All Things considered" <bg> Hee, hee–thanks for a good yuk! Will somebody puhleeeeze turn off the acronym machine?!
#129718From: New Riders PublishingOct 18, 1994 3:32 PM
Darrin, If we're sold out that's news to me. However, it wouldn't surprise me. There was such a high demand for Inside 3D Studio that we sold 12,000 books in less than a month. I warned everyone to order early!<g> I'll see what I can find out. If we are sold out, it's because the bookstores have now placed their orders. The books should start showing up in the channel soon. ____kevin
#129985From: Paul BoydOct 19, 1994 7:14 PM
Here is the story, I placed a phone order on a Thursday 2 weeks ago. I was told that I missed delivery for that day, I asked for Sat delivery and they said no problem. On Sat, no book arrived!! I called on Monday, Tuesday, Wednesday and kept getting the story that it shows being picked and should be on the way out. Thursday Morning I called and NRP said they were out of stock and I would not be recieving my book as scheduled. I was kinda ticked off, why did they say it was picked (also when I placed the order they confirmed there were plenty in stock), well anyways – I cancelled my order. I called DIGIMATION and talked with David Avgikos, he had a book to me the next day as promised!!!! I cant say enough about DIGIMATION, they have always taken really good care of me in the past and are always on top of things!!! Thanks Dave and everybody at DIGIMATION!!!! Paul Boyd
#130040From: Digimation – David AvgikOct 19, 1994 10:35 PM
Your welcome. Thanks for being a customer! David – Digimation
#130882From: Don AppersonOct 24, 1994 10:36 AM
What book is everyone talking about? Is it available readily so one can browse through it? Where can I find info about books on 3ds and IPAS writing in general Thanks
#130220From: Benjamin WoolleyOct 20, 1994 3:21 PM
A 'classic' indeed. Is this book available or likely to be available in the UK? I think I need it.
#130642From: john h grabauOct 22, 1994 7:27 PM
Benjamin, I am responding to your post with the expectation that others will see this: One can stay aware of what is about to be released by simply asking ang _good_ book store what titles are due in the next 2 to 4 to 6 months on a subject (ie 3DS). Tomorrow I will pick up a third new 3DS book release, scheduled for Nov '94, that I think has yet to be mentioned here. Early orders get early delivery. From the research world, <G> jhg
#130806From: S WhiteOct 23, 1994 10:04 PM
Got my book last week. Good stuff. However one critical remark. Your copy editors need to be fed. I cannot believe the typos and misspellings. As an example check out the conclusion paragraph on page 65..It was printed twice. I am not really a detail person, but when you spend $50 for a book, it is a bit of a bummer to see so many errors. Also my CD did not contain Keith Seifert's SHLDSRCE.TXT file. I am really interested in seeing what IPAS source code looks like. Good book. You need a followup one on IPAS stuff. Might even think about doing a VHS tape to go along with it. Kinda like David's. ..SW
#131691From: david W. mennenohOct 27, 1994 5:20 PM
>>I cannot believe the typos and misspellings. I know what you mean. Exactly like the R4 manual also. Tons of typos. Oh well. Dave Mennenoh
#131810From: Jonas Ruikis [ADESK]Oct 28, 1994 8:44 AM
Hi David, << Tons of typos. Oh well. >> I'd like to hear about them, if you marked them..please…:-( jonas[adesk]
#129448From: Thomas FlanneryOct 17, 1994 3:03 PM
OK, I went to the forum… Now what do I do?? Can I order it from the forum? If so how? Thanks, Tom Flannery
#128158From: Alex KaramanoglouOct 10, 1994 1:59 PM
Hi Jon, Would you please let me know what the information on the book is so that I too can order it? (i.e., ISBN Number, title, etc.?) Thank you in advance. Alex Karamanoglou Network Graphics & Animations Miami, FL