CompuServe Thread

Educational Upgrades

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#129221From: Tim Krego, [pro.image]Oct 15, 1994 5:19 PM
>>>It would seem to me that if Student copies _where_ upgradable directly through Autodesk then that leaves another Massive Conflict of Interest between the "educational" resellers and the Legitimate Resellers.<<< Journey handles upgrades for students who purchase through them. They have free upgrades to R4 for those who bought 3DS after the announcement. >>>If One is allowed to lie to an educational reseller to obtain a "student copy" of 3D Studio and then continue to get upgrades directly from Autodesk with no futher checking regarding that persons "legal" "Student" Status….Doesn't that strike you as a Problem???<<< Most edu. dealers verify student status, though that doesn't stop someone from having a student purchase it for them. You probably have to be a student still to upgrade.
#129513From: James M. MurphyOct 17, 1994 9:34 PM
Hi Tim Krego! First of all Tim, what is [pro.image]? >> Journey handles upgrades for students who purchase through them. They have free upgrades to R4 for those who bought 3DS after the announcement.<< I realize that, but _HOW_ does Journey _VERIFY_ that those Students are FULL TIME Students and in fact are Eligible for the Student Copies in the first place…. Just as a little experiment I had someone call them and when they asked about full time verses part time student status….the Journey Salesperson told them "Part Time…..NO PROBLEM….." Hugh!!!! That's a direct violation of the educational software sellers contract…."NO PART TIME STUDENTS!!" Right!! Based upon that Autodesk is being lied to about the status of these people and they shouldn't even have thier first copy much less an upgrade to Release 4…I would hope that Autodesk could rely on their "educational dealers" to play by the rules but as I've just confirmed by a recent inquiry just these past days….in Journey's Case…THEY ARE NOT! You also bring up another majoy violation that takes place with disturbing regularity…."someone haveing a student purchase the software for them"…. Because these violations seem to be the "norm" not the exception, as a dealer I've got to take the position that there should be no educational copies except for us internally by the facilities that are authorized to teach/use the program at the educational institutions physical site only and that at the point when a "student" feels the need for a full blown copy of this program he then ceases to become a student and is in fact going in to business for himself. At that point he or she should be required to purchase from a non-educational dealer like the rest of the world that is expected to play by the rules. I don't beleive a full time student has a legitimate reason to own a full blown copy of the software he is taking a class on unless he plans on using it to go in to business for him or her self and that is where I take issue with the student pricing. I'm also against Instructors as well as students using the hardware at these particular institutions for their own "personal gain". That's my Official Position! Murph'