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#3ds animation output

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#189579From: Jody SmithSep 7, 1995 12:51 PM
Can anyone recommend a board that will output an animation file or sequence at 640×480 ,24bit color,30fps? I am looking for a low cost solution that does not require a dedicated harddrive. So far the only product I have found with these specs is the mars pro2 board. Unfortunately, this product still hasn't made it to market. If anyone could drop a quick note detailing possible products , dealers and personal experiences with these products, I would be extreemly GRATEFUL
#189590From: Rich SchwartzSep 7, 1995 1:34 PM
Jody, I just ordered a MARS II board, and have been promised delivery in three to four weeks. They claim the first boards will be in the US in two weeks. If you have the time and are willing to gamble that the board will deliver as promised (I have no indication it will not), you can contact Daewoo.
#189627From: Ernie JacksonSep 7, 1995 4:59 PM
>> I just ordered a MARS II board, << What'd they clip you for? About $1500? Please upload a smallish file after you get it so we can see it's output. TIA – ej
#191783From: Jody SmithSep 20, 1995 9:56 AM
<<I just ordered a MARS II board, and have been promised delivery>> Rich, I'm sorry it took so long for me to respond. I just got on CIS a month ago and I still haven't figured out the difference between mail and messages (I havent been to the ASOFT forum in a while) Anyways, Have you seen a demo of the output from MARS II Pro? When I spoke to the folks at Daewoo they told me the board did not require a dedicated hard drive. I went to a meeting last night and got to see the DPS Perception board. It requires its own hard drive but the image quality is exceptional. If you could drop me a note when you get your board I would really apreciate it. Thanks Jody Smith
#192413From: Carolyn SkeenSep 25, 1995 11:30 AM
Jody you do not need a dedicated hard drive, this board will knock your socks of . the quality of the graphics is out of this world. Hey for $700 its the best way to go. Joe LoMoglio
#193032From: ED GROSSSep 28, 1995 5:48 PM
I would like to know more about the MARS II board. Can you send me info or the company name for info?
#194154From: Jody SmithOct 5, 1995 9:52 AM
<<I would like to know more about the MARS II board. Can you send me info>> Ed, The company that makes the mars II is Daewoo. They can be reached at 1-800-432-8905. The specs sound great but I have yet to see this product on the maket. One product I have seen is the DPS Perception board. It outputs broadcast quality BetaSP video for a modest price. Excellent image quality! DPS can be reached at 606-371-5533 If you have any other questions just drop me a note Jody
#194182From: Alan J. PolinskyOct 5, 1995 1:42 PM
After spending some time talking with the Daewoo people and the DPS people at Siggraph I finally found out one of the major differences between the MARS II board and the PVR: MARS II uses MPEG2 compression/file format and the PVR uses M-JPEG. This give the PVR a lower compression ratio but a slightly better quality image….also an M-JPEG animation is easily editted (with the right software) while it is more difficult to edit the MPEG2 data….but the MPEG2 file can be distributed and decoded via software, while the M-JPEG will need hardware decompression!
#194548From: Jody SmithOct 9, 1995 10:05 AM
Alan, I am using an Imix video cube for editing. It uses its own compression algorithim named wavelet. I need to get the highest quality image on beta-sp for digitizing by the imix. according to your assesment, I would be better off using the perception board. So how was Sigraph? I read a review in Shoot that said there was a plethera of companies searching for artists. Was that true? I am currently working in Washington, D.C. but I'm interested in knowing how much of a demand there is for artists in other markets. Jody
#194640From: Alan J. PolinskyOct 9, 1995 8:19 PM
The Perception outputs 4:2:2 digital component quality which, I think, is better than BetaCam, so this would be you best, as opposed to the MARS boards. Siggraph was great, and there were quite a few firms looking for help!
#194656From: Oct 9, 1995 10:35 PM
Alan: >> The Perception outputs 4:2:2 digital component quality which, >> I think, is better than BetaCam… Huh?? You are comparing pure uncompressed video (BetaCam) with compressed (PVR) output, the BetaCAM has cleaner output, assuming, of course, that you put the animations on the Beta frame-by-frame or with an UNCOMPRESSED disk recorder. This can be seen especially when editing and going down a few generations. Greg (I like the PVR, but it is NOT uncompressed video!) Pyros
#194722From: Jody SmithOct 10, 1995 1:30 PM
<<Huh?? You are comparing pure uncompressed video (BetaCam) with>> Greg, Can you tell me anything about the quicktime movie maker IPAS? I am trying to get my animations into an Imix video cube (mac-ahhhhgh!) with the highest image quality possible. Thanx Jody
#194794From: Oct 10, 1995 9:06 PM
Jody: >> Can you tell me anything about the quicktime movie maker IPAS? Nope! Never saw it. Anyone else want to take a stab at this one? Greg Pyros
#194837From: Robert C. RitgerOct 11, 1995 12:18 AM
Jody: This can be found in the IPAS library #1: >> [71162,131] Tomas Capek QTIME1.ZIP Bin, Bytes: 43801, Count: 232, 17-Mar-95 Last:23-Sep-95 Title : Animetix QuickTime Movie Maker v1.13 Keywords: 3D STUDIO 3DS IPAS IXP QUICKTIME ANIMETIX A plug-in for Video Post under 3D Studio that lets you create 24-bit QuickTime movie files automatically during rendering. This demo version supports user-defined output resolution, compression, frame rate, frame numbering. Check it out. (Approx DL time at 2400 baud: 3:00; at 14400 baud: 1:00) << – Bob Ritger
#194680From: Rene MenschelOct 10, 1995 5:47 AM
Hi ! I would like to know more about the MARS II board ! Can you give me a fax number ? Please no 1-800 number because these number can't be reached from germany ! May be you know a german distributor ? Thanx for your help ! Rene M.
#194720From: Jody SmithOct 10, 1995 1:26 PM
Daewoo #'s are: ph: 310-609-2251 fx: 310-669-2030
#194775From: Robert C. RitgerOct 10, 1995 7:48 PM
Rene: FWIW, this could be worth a look: 71242,2366] John Schmidt MARSRV.TXT Text, Bytes: 8165, Count: 256, 13-Feb-95 Last:26-Sep-95 Title : Revue of the "MARS" MPEG card. Keywords: MARS NTSC PAL VIDEO MPEG TEST REVIEW This is a review of the "MARS" Mpeg Animation Recording System, for outputting 25 or 30 frames per second PAL or NTSC video, realtime, from MPEG files rendered from 3D Studio to your hard disk. [dl time at 2400 baud: 1 min] – Bob Ritger
#195389From: Daniel B. DouglasOct 14, 1995 3:54 PM
I watched the "progress" of the MARS's entry into the market, and called Daewoo several times trying to get info, and it seemed like lots of good talk, and no substance. I saw the thing at Siggraph, and it looked great. But, will it ever be available? They started advertizing in about March, and I don't think they have a product yet. Calls to Daewoo can be a bad experience. I try to keep an open mind, but I think if a Korean company wants to operate in the U.S., they've got to be comfortable with the language, and twice their phone was answered by people who simply could not communicate.
#195509From: Robert C. RitgerOct 15, 1995 7:50 PM
Dan: I wasn't endorsing the MARS product just offering a file here in our libraries. The file is a review, fairly objective one at that, and I passed it on to Rene as his note specifically asked about that board. The board is out there and in use, I think they even have a MARS III out already. If their tech support is as abysmal as you suggest then I would also be swayed to look elsewhere for a solution. I've been using the PAR myself and I've been pretty satisfied. – Bob Ritger
#192412From: Carolyn SkeenSep 25, 1995 11:28 AM
Get a mars 2 board. I know where you can get one now. Design Technologies 1 800 825 1111 ask for Loren Williams Tell her Joe LoMoglio refered you. Hope this helps. Joe.