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Video Toaster/Flyer

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#215917From: paul massellOct 20, 1995 10:41 AM
Hello, I was introduced to the Amiga and NewTek products. I was very impressed with the quality and price and am considering purchasing these products for my business. What I want to do, is to save money by using the products to revitalize some already produced commercials and if possible, create some new ones using the animation capabilities. An investment such as this is not really in my budget, but if I could see some immediate savings on studio time and technical consulting it may be worth it. I have some questions for the knowlegable people here, if anyone would care to address them it would be appreciated. 1. Is it worth it? I will need high quality – to be broadcast on major and minor stations. If it is going to appear amateurish then it definitely won't be worth it for me. 2. Can my technical people self-teach themselves the systems or is this going to require a complete paradigm shift. (My technical people are PC and AS400 oriented. In the video area, no one is conversant with NLE.) 3. A person such as myself who is "artisticly" oriented and a mild computer Geek, (but by no means an expert) — will I be able to pick up the workings of the Toaster/Flyer? 4. What will I need to invest in (I'm starting from scratch)? For example…to plug one of my commercials into my system and then work it and have it ready for broadcast will I need a digital deck? (I hear this is about $50,000) Video monitors? Beta SP? Etc..etc? thank you to anyone who responds. You can send it to me E-mail if you prefer. regards, Paul M
#216021From: Betty Clay/SYSOPOct 20, 1995 11:59 PM
Paul, I'm not an artist, nor am I an expert on the Toaster – but my church uses one for broadcasting its services. Our technical people use only a fraction of the capabilities of their equipment, but they love it. One of them works at a TV station that is affiliated with a major network, and he is pleased with the quality he gets from the Amiga4000 and Toaster. The best place for you to get help with the Toaster is in the NewTek support section in AmigaVendor forum. There are many users over there, conversing about all sorts of Toaster-related topics, and NewTek personnel are there regularly to answer questions and make suggestions. You might keep an eye on the Classified section of AmigaUser, too. I've seen quite a few Toaster systems advertised there lately, at good prices. Even I have been tempted a few times, and I have absolutely NO use for such a system except as a toy! I suspect you'd have no problem learning to use the Toaster. There are video tapes available to help you get the most from it – and I occasionally see that someone is offering a two- or three-day hands-on training course for it in various parts of the country. I'll leave it up to the Toaster users to tell you about prices, but do check in AmigaVendor, for that's where most of them will be. —Betty
#216062From: paul massellOct 21, 1995 12:53 PM
Betty: Thanks for the info. PM
#216130From: Wayne ColeOct 21, 1995 11:38 PM
Paul, If your intention is to really "get into it" as far as video goes, or you spemd more than about $10K per year on your video needs, then by all means, you should consider building a studio around the Toaster. However, if your main job (and those of your company/co-workers) is something else entirely – like widget manufacturers – then by bring the Toaster onto the scene you are risking loosing productivity in the widget arena. The part the Toaster demos and tapes don't stress too much are the TBCs single frame controllers/PAR cards/Flyer cards, "broadcast quality" editing decks and controllers, not to mention the audio equipment, production music licenses, clip-art libraries (and the time to search them), the other tools you'll inevitabley want in both software and hardware (house synch, and if you want broadcast results, waveform-vectorscope). The "amatuerish look" can also be obtained with the Toaster. The tapes don't stress the sheer talent of the people who made them. The Toaster was merely a vehicle to let the talent express itself on video. What I would suggest is to hire an Amiga/Toaster/DTV knowledgabl person for a few hours consulting, to look at what you have, what you want to do with it, and how you anticipate being involved with video over the next 5 years. Have them specify a system for you right down to the cables and connectors level, and price it out for you. Fold that information in with your assement of the talent of the folks who are going to use it, and there's your answer. You might find it is better to locate a Toaster owner with lots of talent and limited potential for getting a foot in the local hi-budget video service providers who would give you a good price in exchange for a shot at getting a good customer. It's as simple as looking at the demo reel and an interview to see if the person is willing to work to your vision. wmc – via Autopilot!
#216210From: paul massellOct 22, 1995 7:31 PM
Wayne Cole: Thanks for your even-tempered assessment. It somewhat mirrors my thoughts. regards, Paul M
#216253From: Wayne ColeOct 23, 1995 2:35 AM
Paul, If you were near-by I'd invite you over, show you what you might be in for, then give you my rates for the kind or work you would want to do for yourself, and if you still wanted to put a system in your company I would (for a fee, of course) specify, install and provide training to you and your staff. If you are near a good Toaster dealer you might be able to get them to provide the same type of service or refer you to someone locally who can do the same thing. Good luck. wmc – via Autopilot!
#216409From: paul massellOct 24, 1995 8:19 AM
Wayne: >If you were near-by I'd invite you over< Where are you located?