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#PC vs. MAC

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#2078From: TimothyJan 17, 1995 2:29 AM
PC vs. MAC system? I am a new member and am eager to get into desktop video, editing,etc. I now have a 486 DX 50 upgradeable to Pentium and 64 RAM. I see that Adobe Premiere 4.0 is now available in Windows. My question is: Can PC based video editing systems match the quality (Performance and output) of a MAC sytem such as VideoVision Studio or Rastor Ops? I want the best 30fps 60 field full screen output that I can get (up to $15000). What Video capture card with output to video and hi8 setups would you recommend on a PC system? Other important considerations? Any suggestions or advice would be greatly appreciated. Thanks,
#2154From: Steve Bennett/SYSOPJan 19, 1995 1:02 PM
Hi Timothy, Welcome to the DeskTop Video Forum. In my opinion IBM Compatibles are certainly catching up fast in the DTV arena. A well configured IBM can do a good job in non-linear video editing. A strong contender in the non-linear editing arena is FAST electronics with their Digital Player Recorder (DP/R) combined with their Video Machine for a switcher. -John
#2155From: TimothyJan 19, 1995 1:23 PM
Thanks for the reply. What a coincidence, I just recieved my requested fax from FAST about 10 minutes ago! I'll look it over. My thinking now is, that I want to "break-into" things on a low cost set up, just to make sure that I see it as something I intent to pursue more seriously. By then, after NAB, etc, I have a feeling there will be alot more features/options/flexibility for the $. I was also looking into Razor Pro along with the Personal Animator Recorder with a TBC…the claim is D2 quality, real time. Sounds too good to be true if all I need to buy is a couple gigs of HD. I'll check into it though, and again, any imput would be welcomed!
#2182From: Tim WetmoreJan 20, 1995 10:59 AM
Timothy: I'm the editor of Video Pro magazine. Our April issue will contain a comprehensive, real world workout of the Fast DPR. You may want to check it out. Meanwhile, staying active in this forum is a good idea since there are many knowledgeable people contributing here. Good luck. Tim
#2208From: TimothyJan 21, 1995 10:17 AM
Thanks for your response. I'll be sure to pick up the April issue. I'll add it to my "collection" of monthlies!
#2213From: John Reginald HarrisJan 21, 1995 3:37 PM
I agree that IBM compatibles are catching up, but I think that Mac based systems still have a significant lead in nonlinear systems and will maintain that for some time, particularly in the high end area. One consideration is what will you use your system for: type of end products and distribution medium, who your clients are and what needs will they have, type of special effects (if any) that are needed, your price performance needs and budget, and what equipment you're starting with. All systems on both platforms have something to offer and each is a little different. If you look at this carefully, you may find your PC will do the job with add ons, or you may need a Mac, or you may not need nonlinear at all and a switcher system works perfectly. Both full fledged nonlinear systems and Switcher/nonlinear composites (like Fast Video system with nonlinear options) have pluses and minuses. For a full fledged nonlinear system in your price range on PC compatibles make sure you look at the Targa 2000 systems. On some level their company is connected with RasterOps. From what I hear, the quality of this system is quite good and it would fit your budget requirements. (I use a Mac based system-Media 100) If possible look for a meeting, dealer demostration, convention, or any place where you might be able to compare several systems SIDE BY SIDE. That is the best way to decide for yourself what type and which system will meet your needs. (I looked at reviews for a long time, but going to MacWorld last year really helped point me in the right direction for our system.) And of course by all means read any and all reviews, forums, SIG boards and ask questions. Get all the info you can, its a lot of money and it will ALWAYS seem you could have spend more, or gotten more for your money. By the way just in case you decide to buy a Mac-The Rasterops cards are nice but the Radius VVS has better video (I think). Radius just brought out a "Telecast upgrade for their system which gives Pro ins and outs, component video, hardward synced audio and full genlock capability. Targa just released a Mac version of their 2000 which I've heard performs and looks better than the windows version.(Newer?) All of these "systems" would fit your budget, but the cost of the system is not the only cost: add in CPU costs, additional memory, Larger moniter (hard to do anything nonlinear without at least a 17" or larger moniter), big fast hard drives or arrays, backup storage, cost of video deck(s) (if you don't have it (them) already, and the various software packages you may need if not bundled. This extra costs will be true regardless of what your platform is. Make sure you budget carefully and realistically. Sorry for the long message. Good luck. Reg Harris
#2253From: Tim WetmoreJan 23, 1995 9:15 AM
Reg: I saw your note posted to Timothy and wanted to comment. Your advice was very sound, though I think youd did ignore one system that can "fly" with the others you mentioned and that is the new Fast DPR which operates on a PC platform. Also Radius just announced their Radius Edit to go with Telecast that looks good, but is not yet shipping. I saw the Targa 2000 for the Mac and was impressed with it though the video they were showing was the kind of video in which it was difficult to discern compression artifacts so you couldn't get a true evaluation. Speaking of that, we will be evaluating the Targa in an upcoming issue of Video Pro magazine. (By the way, Raster Ops owns Truevision). We also have reviews of Avid's Media Suite Pro and the latest version of the M100. Good Luck, Tim
#2265From: John Reginald HarrisJan 23, 1995 1:58 PM
Thanks for the additional info. I recently received an issue of VideoPro Mag but now I can't find it to save my life. I can't remember if I filled out a card for a trial subscription or not (prior to receiving it). If I'm on the mailing list I hope I get another chance to look over an issue.
#2272From: TimothyJan 23, 1995 5:08 PM
Thank you very much for your reply and recommendations. It is very helpful for me as I am contemplating an important decision.