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Manx 5.0 C?

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#75297From: Mike Spille/ManxNov 20, 1989 7:02 PM
Version 5.0 of the Aztec C compiler will not contain an integrated environment, although it was originally intended to. The decision not to include 'ACE' (as it's called) was based on several factors, including development snags, and mixed reactions from Amiga developers. The main problem that most developers have w/ integrated environments is that they're locked into the editor, which wouldn't be bad except that most integrated environments have LOUSY editors – just look at Turbo C's word-star like editor. However, we at Manx do believe that integrated envirnments are important, especially for the beginning user, and the next major release of Aztec C will have an integrated environment. In the meantime, you can use Rez to make the compiler, et al. resident. In addition, libraries, headers, etc. can be copied into the ram disk, space permitting.
#75640From: Ken NewmanNov 22, 1989 9:15 PM
Thnx a lot for setting the record straight. I understand your comment about editors but I disagree that the user is "locked" into using that editor exclusively. The way I do it, initial program creation is done with my favourite editor, vi, (on the ST) and I use the Laser C environment editor for touch-ups to get a program working. Of course, if the env editor sucks this can still be painful, but the Laser C editor is very good. Don't know about Turbo C, but if the interface is like most PC software I've seen, prehistoric or brain-dead would be good descriptions. So I don't see why an integrated system has to ave a "lousy" editor. I also don't think that int. env's (getting tired of typing that! lets call it IE's) are only for beginners. I am an experienced C programmer and I like them. The acceleration in the edit-compile-link-run cycle increases my productivity by several times. One of their best features is they work great on smaller systems (no hard disk, small memory etc.). Laser C runs very well from a single floppy and 1 meg of ram (I have two floppies however). Seems to me this can only increase your market potential by a lot. You mention the "next major release" of Manx will have an IE. Is going from 3.6 to 5.0 not a major release? Didn't know you provide the capability of making the tools resident, how much memory would it need to make the compiler, linker, and editor resident?