CompuServe Thread

Where's Manx???

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#4052From: Roy S. LauferNov 24, 1990 2:06 PM
Bob, I'm afraid they aren't visible in BIX either (I lurk about there regualarly). It was there that I left an e-mail to the Manx Sysop over a month ago. It still hasn't been answered. Manx appears to be pulling in its legs and tails (like a turtle – it makes it more difficult to tell when it dies then – except for the eventual smell). -RSL-
#4196From: Robert AlbrechtNov 27, 1990 1:01 AM
Well as for Lattice, they seem to be out of the Amiga biz! I also think that Aztec has been strangely absent from the networks. But I'll tell you, I got my latest Aztec update and it is _very_ good. They must have been doing something.
#4204From: Jeff SchweigerNov 27, 1990 2:03 AM
Robert – The Lattice C compiler has been transferred to Lattice's parent company, SAS Institute, with the introduction of SAS C version 5.10. Personnel from SAS are frequently found on Usenet, and the SAS support area on BiX is quite active. Regarding the absence of Manx from the networks, someone on BiX apparently contacted Manx by phone and reported that Mike Spille had left Manx, and at the moment they were not supplying online support (but hope to do so in the future). They are, apparently, answering their telephone support line. Jeff Schweiger
#4488From: Roy S. LauferNov 30, 1990 3:32 PM
Bob, Technically, Lattice REALLY out of business. They have been owned by SAS for a long time now and their Lattice division has been absorbed into SAS (their compiler is called SAS/C I believe). I have heard of other people (on other services) say that they aren't as happy as you appear to be with 5.0d. I haven't had an opportunity to use it lately (since I want to do something with 2.0 but lack the required autodocs). I hope that both companies continue to be fiercely competitive, otherwise they will sit on their laurels and we will be stuck with out of date products! -RSL-
#4528From: John ToebesNov 30, 1990 11:55 PM
Well, let me set a few facts straight here. SAS Institute is the parent company for Lattice (and has been for many years). All of the Amiga development has always been done by myself and more recently my staff for all releases since 3.10. Lattice simply put their name on the product after adding a few value added features (like technical support and much of the documentation) and shipped the product. In August of this year it was decided that the customers were better served by putting all development, sales, and technical support under one roof. I was able to put a staff of 4 people on the Amiga product along with 2 technical support people. Directly on the heels of the transfer, we shipped the 5.10 release of what is now called the SAS/C Development System for AmigaDOS. It includes complete support for 2.0 as well as a fully functional workbench environment – as well as the normal release of improvements to the technology and performance. These features were times to be released at the same time at the 3000 hit the streets with 2.0. As for being competitive, we really don't see that. Our product directions come from our users and an internal drive from developers at SAS Institute who use the product on the Apollo day in and day out to compile about 3.5 Millions lines of C source code every day. These developers (about 500) know that part of my department's responsibility is to serve their needs and don't ever let us rest for a moment. If you follow our conference on 'that other' online service, you will find that our directions are derived from user input and desires to push the state in the art for technology. In the past year we have also had a more important driving force – Commodore. As you should be aware, many pieces of the 2.0 operating system were built with our compiler. We are constantly responding to requests from Commodore to improve code quality in order to help preserve that valuable rom space. Feel free to comment, we really are proud of this product and want it to grow.
#4560From: BILL LEACHDec 1, 1990 10:01 AM
John; Good to see you here! I hope that we can expect your presence with a bit more regularity. 73, bill
#4572From: John ToebesDec 1, 1990 4:50 PM
It all depends. Time is a big factor and we have MANY things to do on the compiler.