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#Model Contest!

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#148986From: Dan KemmisJan 25, 1995 1:10 PM
Hello all from Dr. Pixel! Announcing the very cool "Best 3D Studio Modeler on Earth" contest. NW Tech and BlackBox are proud to sponsor this awesome challenge to all Studio users. One entry per person, $10 per entry. All entries must be in .3DS file format. All entrys must use the stock 3DS materials lib. All entries should be saved with 1 (and only 1) camera in the scene. All entrys must fit on a 1.44 floppy disk. Judging will be based on 3 catagories, 10 points maximum per catagory. Catagories are: 1. Model Detail 2. Render Quality (640 x 480 16M color) 3. Render Speed. Note: 1 & 2 are based on subjective measures… item 3 is based on hard numbers. All renders will be on same P90 with 64 MB. A total score of 30 is the best possible score. Prizes: 4th place (x5) your choice of one of BlackBox's ipas routines, 3rd place (x3) you get any two of BlackBox's routines, 2nd place (x2) any 3 of BB's ipas, and 1st place (x1) you get the whole BlackBox set of 4 ipas routines. They are – Flock3D, Vortex3D, Bubble3D v2.0 and Dfilter. Great ipas to die for. A $500 value of ipas stuff! All entries must be in hand by April 2nd, 1995 8AM @ NW Tech. All model entries become our property. Mail or ship entrys on 1.33 with $10 check to NW Tech, 13256 NE 20th Suite 5, Bellevue Wa. 98005. Judging begins at 8:30 AM April 2nd by a select pannel of professionals. Score will be posted (with written permission) in a future post. Happy modeling, Dr. Pixel
#149000From: John EllisJan 25, 1995 2:09 PM
Hi Dan, Would you mind tell us your motivation for holding this contest? John Ellis
#149487From: Dan KemmisJan 27, 1995 11:05 AM
Sure… My main reason for putting the contest together… is to spot the best modelers in the country. I've ad more tan a few requests for custom models and I want a way to grade folks. This should give me a good way to refer some high quality jobs out… And I like to party, and the render day will be a big party… Oops, just spilled some gin Dr Pixel
#149583From: John EllisJan 27, 1995 3:18 PM
Dan, >> is to spot the best modelers in the country. << Thanks for your answer, I think you're on the right track but the stakes need to be higher to attract the best, don't you think? John
#149780From: Dan KemmisJan 28, 1995 12:19 PM
owe… Yes, that may be. I'd like to keep this a cash even scenario… Hence the $10 entry fee. Mom says she may add some more prizes if we get some more people and $10 entrys… All i'm going to get from my customers is more Studio sales… (and that is very COOL) but I can't put too many awards in the mix by just little 'ol me. Black box has been very nice to offer this level of help… Any one else want to jump in? As for the modelers, I was not expecting "all new" models. I felt that most folk would pull a long forgotten .3ds file from some sub-dir and pollish it up some. One guy tells me he won't enter "because he thinks he can't get a big enough return" I'll be he's fun at parties… Dr Pixel
#149808From: John EllisJan 28, 1995 2:03 PM
Well Dr. I guess the entry fee thing is kind of a sticking point for many. Now I suppose if you provided a CD with all the meshes on it to entrants with the understanding that you would continue to sell the meshes for additional profit, that might be a win/win. But as it stands you may be discouraging more participation. FWIW I'm inclined to support your idea, its in the details of implementation that things need a little work IMO. Believe me I do understand time effort etc. So the question is how to make it attractive to everyone one concerned. If there's a cost effective way to make it equitable, I think you're on to something. Profit, Recognition or Renumeration = Incentive FWIW I would be willing to contribute my Porsche Shield to this but it seems only fair that I'd get a collection of additional meshes in return. Its not worth it just to compete, for alot of animators that is not an incentive. (Yeah I know, hard to believe but they're a different breed.) Just a little insight into the workings of an animators mind. John
#149050From: Brandon MacDougallJan 25, 1995 7:13 PM
<<All entries must be in hand by April 2nd, 1995 8AM @ NW Tech. All model entries become our property. Mail or ship entrys on 1.33 with $10 check to NW Tech, 13256 NE 20th Suite 5, Bellevue Wa. 98005.>> So let me see here… The best 3DS model winner gets 500.00 of old IPaz's and you get 10.00 per entry plus all right's to ALL the models to resale or use in your animation's? I think something is burning. Brandon
#149106From: Don LandisJan 25, 1995 11:34 PM
I've got a contest too. Send me your models, texture maps and $10.00. I get all rights to you stuff. The winner Gets $50 cash chosen by impartial drawing. If we don't get at least 10 entries the contest is off. No refunds No returns. "You can fool some of the people all the time." –William Clinton
#149166From: SyndesisJan 26, 1995 8:10 AM
I've got a new contest. Better odds than the state lottery! Send me two dollars, and I'll send you back one! "A fool and his money were lucky enough to get together in the first place."
#149451From: Gary L. AngleJan 27, 1995 9:00 AM
John There's probably more to this than is in the contest anouncement! I think what will probably follow will be a free set of cd's containing all the entries! The entry fee goes to mastering and shipping costs!! really exciting!! This will help standardize the look of everything and I can throw this D**n box away and just go watch TV and drink beer. Yea, I've got your mesh model right HERE!
#149494From: Dan KemmisJan 27, 1995 11:11 AM
Thanks Gary… You are close to right on. We will be giving ALL of the models to the local 3D Studio user group… (giving as in for FREE) The money will go to the cool party (open to all…) and to get some dough for the user group. I think they are a worthy cause… St Pixel
#149490From: Dan KemmisJan 27, 1995 11:08 AM
Hi Don! Well, Ill join enter yours if you will enter mine… Will you be sending us a model and a check? Dan
#149662From: Don LandisJan 27, 1995 6:30 PM
Sorry Dan, I'm strictly professional here, meaning, I only do this stuff for hire. I don't enter contests and don't really feel what I do is what your contest is all about. 95% of my 3DS work is special effects for video plus flying logo stuff. I am not an artist, I am a video engineer and editor, who occasionally shoots too. I work in 3DS as the jobs require it but as for fancy modeling I generally sub all the fancy stuff out. Stuff like free form animals and boats etc. Simple models I do here. I guess you contest was not a joke but it sure sounded that way when you introduced it. That's why others including myself responded with our tongues in cheeks. Take no offense. We just thought it came across funny.
#149781From: Dan KemmisJan 28, 1995 12:25 PM
Thanks Don. I got a little thin skinned yesterday. (it was my birthday) sorry. As for the contest… You got it. Most pro's have some hidden away modeler who loves that stuff. I want to find 'em. Most productions seem to find detailed modeling the hardest portion of completeing a task. I'm looking for the best, and we'll have some fun doing it. Please let anyone you might think worthy in on the deal… Dr Pixel, Fading like an old monitor.
#149838From: Jonas Ruikis [ADESK]Jan 28, 1995 5:51 PM
Happy B-Day Dr!
#149489From: Dan KemmisJan 27, 1995 11:06 AM
Geez Brandon… I'm giving the models to the local 3D Studio user group… Will you be sending us a model? Can't win if you don't play… Dr
#149128From: MARTIN G FOSTERJan 26, 1995 12:48 AM
Dan, >> One entry per person, $10 per entry …. All model entries become our property << ROFL, I was just thinking yesterday about how much I missed your humour on the forum. This is probably your funniest post to date. <G>
#149298From: david W. mennenohJan 26, 1995 5:19 PM
Yeah right! DM
#149431From: bruce gorenJan 27, 1995 5:30 AM
I notice he left out the part about the 1-900 number you have to call to find out if your entry is a winner. Only $1.99 per minute , average length of call 8 minutes. <smirk>
#149495From: Dan KemmisJan 27, 1995 11:13 AM
Hi Bruce… No 900's here. It's a real contest, and we need some money… To do it right. PS… I hope you will send us a model… Best of luck, written in 1 minute. Dr
#149533From: bruce gorenJan 27, 1995 12:57 PM
Dan, Heh, heh, heh — You still simply don't "GET IT" , do you ? By capturing the rights to any models submitted to your so-called contest you remove all incentive to participate. Most of us smell a rat, and whether through design, or pure innocent stupidity, it's your contest that is making the stink, not us wise guys with the smirking commentary. Bruce N. Goren
#149537From: Dan KemmisJan 27, 1995 1:07 PM
Gosh, Bruce… You seem to smell a RAT. Well, OK… Don't enter. I'll guess you are a fine modeler and we can leave it at that. Fair enough? PS, I need qualified judges… Can you help? Dr Pixel
#149349From: James Coulter[Mindscape]Jan 26, 1995 9:22 PM
> A $500 value of ipas stuff! < The only problem is this: I would spend more than $490 of my time to build a winning model. I don't even mind the fact that you would be making a killing on entry fees and models — that's just good business!! — James — Choreo Motion —
#149498From: Dan KemmisJan 27, 1995 11:18 AM
James… You could send us something you did for fun… It is not ment to be a big "gig"… But a $10 per entry, we could have a cool party. I love to party with animals… (party animals…) Dr Pixel
#149417From: Jeff LahnaJan 27, 1995 2:03 AM
I've got 1000 models I'd like to submit, but that would make my entry fee $10,000. Could I have a discount and only send in $9000?
#149500From: Dan KemmisJan 27, 1995 11:21 AM
Thanks Jeff. That is why we have a one entry limit. You can't stack tis contest no matter how hard you try! Also note: Quality beats quantity anytime… A hard choice awaits… What model will it be??? Thanks for the $10 Rich from models Dr Pixel