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#EVO-9700 – a deal?

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#46505From: Luke H MontgomeryNov 5, 1992 9:32 PM
In my seemingly neverending seaarch for VTRs for Toastin'… Anybody out there in Toasterland have, seen, or used the Sony EVO-9700?? Saw an ad for it yesterday – could be interesting… One playback + one record deck — Frame-accurate w/SMTPE, looks like. Is this a good deal? What's the going street price these days? (Nobody seems to print prices in the ads)… How and how well does it work with the Toaster & Lightwave??? All comments are greatly appreciated! Regards, Luke
#46526From: JERRY HATCHETTNov 6, 1992 10:06 AM
Luke, I would assume that the RECORD side of the 9700 is probably quite similar to the EV0-9650, and my new 9650 works like a charm with LW. Renders animation without a single frame controller, very fast, very quiet. Quality of the recorded video is great. Jerry
#46545From: Jonathan HirschmanNov 6, 1992 10:53 PM
Jerry, Are you having any drop-out problems with the EVO-9650? This seemed to be a concern with some… Jonathan, via AutoPilot // Only Amiga makes \\// it possible…
#46554From: JERRY HATCHETTNov 7, 1992 12:06 AM
Jonathan, The only problems I have seen with dropout is on some large surfaces with lots of solid, bright red colors. I've also not had time to tinker with the enhancement features of the machine, which may very well solve the minor problems I have seen. Jerry
#46579From: Jonathan HirschmanNov 7, 1992 4:40 PM
Jerry, So, I take it that there are no problems with the small tape format getting chewed up by single framing? How much do these decks go for, anyway? What are the enhancements you are talking about? Just call me curious Jonathan 🙂 Jonathan, via AutoPilot // Only Amiga makes \\// it possible…
#46866From: Stephen SponagleNov 12, 1992 9:50 AM
Jonathan, Tape is also important in th HI-8 format. Currently, there are two types. Evaporated metal is generally considered to have better image quality, but doesn't stand up to repeated use (ie: single-framing). It evidently sheds its particles with more use. Metal particle tape has a sturdier backing and a stronger bond so it stands up better to the rigors of editing, but its image quality suffers (still better than VHS & 3/4). There are still complaints that in an editing environment the tape stretches and causes sync and lock problems. -Steve
#46973From: Jonathan HirschmanNov 13, 1992 9:33 PM
Steve, Thanks for the info…so, what's your opinion on Hi-8 single framing, overa? Jonathan, via AutoPilot // Only Amiga makes \\// it possible…
#47229From: Stephen SponagleNov 18, 1992 8:40 AM
Jonathan, Re: Hi-8 single framing… Never seen any! I'm about to go 'all the way' and get a Betacam SP deck and a transcoder to single-frame from my Firecracker board. (actually, the deck will be used to make money elsewhere, and when I get enough profit from it, I'll get the transcoder, Alladin 4d, and a SFC!) -Steve
#46630From: Lou WallaceNov 8, 1992 6:00 PM
Luke, The 9700 is not suitable for single frame recording with Lightwave or any other animation package. While a reasonable editing system, (with some limits on audio), the 9700 is not an animators vtr, nor does it work in the same manner as the 9650… If you need to edit Hi8 and can get a good price – go for it. If you want to dump animations to tape – don't waste your money. Lou
#46677From: Luke H MontgomeryNov 9, 1992 10:32 AM
Lou, Hey thanks for the straightforward comments on the 9700. That's what I love about this forum — you can get the straight poop on stuff without having to wade through vendor's propaganda… Have you worked with the 9650? If so, whatcha think? Desparately trying to figure where to spend my fleeting money, Luke
#47081From: Lou WallaceNov 15, 1992 9:20 PM
I've got one (9650) here on my desk. It's for a review in the premiere issue of Desktop Video World. yep, I do like it. A very nice deck for animators. Lou
#47125From: Paul ToalNov 16, 1992 5:05 PM
Do you know the approximate street price? No one will quote me on the phone. –Paul
#47127From: Luke H MontgomeryNov 16, 1992 5:11 PM
I was told $4196 by one mail order house advertised in 'Videomaker'.
#47687From: Lou WallaceNov 28, 1992 6:42 PM
I haven't seen a price lately. It was around $5500 a year or so ago…I expect it to be less now.
#47128From: Luke H MontgomeryNov 16, 1992 5:12 PM
Thanks for the reply, Lou… I'm looking forward to DVW — assuming I can find it somewhere! -Luke