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#Abekas / Accom

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#149445From: Don LandisJan 27, 1995 8:17 AM
I have been involved in a bit of dialog with another forum member and want to verify a claim he has made that is contrary to some information I have received via FAX from the respective manufacturers this afternoon. I would like to give him the benefit of the doubt and see if there is something I'm missing to this issue. The claim was made that it is not possible to use an Abekas DDR or Accom without attaching it to an SGI platform. I was under the impression that the Abekas was a stand alone system.* I also just received some literature from Diaquest where they claim to support the respective DDRs with their Animaq software which runs under windows for 14 different DDR control including the Abekas and Accom. *My info received from Abekas indicates that the video link is via either SCSI-2 or ethernet. The file format is a "TAR" format. Seems to me that all that would be required is a lan and some form of software conversion from the TGA files. The purchase of an SGI machine is not required to load and control the Abekas. Can you clarify this issue? The literature did state that the A65 comes with software to run on the SGI Indigo but did not state that this platform was required to use the Abekas, only to gain special features of this software.
#149469From: MARTIN G FOSTERJan 27, 1995 10:09 AM
Don, I won't stake my reputation on it, but I'm pretty sure the Abekas people told me you can hook a PC to an Abekas. That didn't include needing an SGI. The SGI might have some nice software to control it, though, but it's not strictly necessary.
#149567From: CSA/CAJan 27, 1995 2:24 PM
Don, Diaquest controls the Abekas & Accom from PCs and Macs. Has been used for years. Also their Animaq/VM works with the FAST Video Machines to access the DDRs and usual roundup of VTR suspects. Kevin Krell – Computer Support Associates
#149746From: Don LandisJan 28, 1995 4:42 AM
Hi Kevin: Yes, I pretty much gathered that with info from the horses mouth. It never ceases to amaze me how much "matter of fact" mis-information is disseminated on these forums. I have come to know a small collection of people here that I can trust for straight facts on my questions. Others, I just use as leads for verification. On another forum, I received the info that I would have to switch to the mac inorder to use Anamaq/VM as it only works on the Mac. This came from a MAC dealer. When I received this info I was holding a FAX spec sheet stating just the oposite. I will probably be forced (kicking and screaming) into buying the Anamaq/vm if a contract I submitted is accepted. It calls for many special effects involving rotoscoping and general single frame video processing using component betacam SP editing quality. In my opinion, the PAR will work for all the straight animation as it has already passed the qualify tests but has failed due to artifacts on the rotoscoping. A second submittal using non compressed rotofiles mapped and output to the par did pass, so, I guess we need to be able to single frame (quick pass) the roto files for the project. I am bidding on the complete post for the 30 minute show (22 minutes + commercials pre packaged) The 22 minutes has about 7 minutes of stuff requiring rendered frames. I am bidding against houses that will probably do some of the effects with real time processing.
#149629From: Gus GrubbaJan 27, 1995 4:50 PM
That's silly. Both Abekas and Accoms are nothing more than stand alone computers running their own version of Unix. The "normal" way to transfer stuff back and forth is using standard Unix tools (over a TCP/IP network). You can also control them through a SCSI port if you want to dedicate the unit to one single machine (using ethernet any machine on the net can access it). Blausen Medical over in Texas (see Siggraph Demo Tape) has a fleet of PC's controlling an Abekas and no SGI. Paul Lind runs his Abekas from PC's.
#149652From: Paul LindJan 27, 1995 5:46 PM
>> Paul Lind runs his Abekas from PC's << Absolutely! I run both my Abekas and Accom from my PC's as well as my SGI machines. You could probably run the things from any platform. The Accom especially is actually a baby AT motherboard with standard PC serial ports. The entire damn thing is a PC. Sorry I haven't jumped on this thread. I'm absolutely swamped!!!!!!! I figured Gus or Greg would jump in and straighten things out. Take Care, Paul
#149747From: Don LandisJan 28, 1995 4:42 AM
Thanks guys, I thought so! The arguement originally was that the low end DDRs were not so low price because they "required the SGI" I'm glad you guys with true experience have been reading. I guess my assumption that the true DDRs are still a very cost effective upgrade from the PAR. Things have been going well here, Paul and its good to hear from you once in awhile. Don Landis
#150357From: Feb 1, 1995 12:38 AM
Paul: >> I figured Gus or Greg would jump in and straighten things out. Shows what happens when you leave these things to others! <bg> I was out of town from the 26th through the 29th, and I'm just now catching up on ASOFT! Greg Pyros