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#RexxPlus Help Needed

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#43602From: Steven D. KapplinOct 30, 1994 11:56 PM
I'm looking for anyone who uses or used RexxPlus that may know how to make the rp_ libraries which are needed to incorporate any arexx *.library in a RexxPlus program. It appears that Dineen Edwards has either gone out of business or is no longer supporting RexxPlus. If you know how the rp libraries are made and could provide me with some directions, I'd appreciate it. I have one library and an ARexx host which I'd like to use with RexxPlus, but can't until I can make an rp library for them.
#43619From: Mark D. ManesOct 31, 1994 11:12 PM
They are still in business.. talked to them last week. -mark= Otto Pilot Engaged..
#43620From: Steven D. KapplinOct 31, 1994 11:29 PM
Mark, You did???? Are they still at 313-352-4288? I've called numerous times, left messages a couple of times, but never received a call back. I also left Mark several messages on Bix to which he never responded. After about 3 months of trying to make a connection I sort assumed by the lack of response that they might have disappeared. Given the state of the Amiga world, such a conclusion isn't necessarily unwarranted!! In fact two months ago I sent Mark a disk with several libraries and a request for the rp libs for them. Never got a disk back or even a letter. I had worked very closely with Mark during the beta testing to shake out RexxPlus. I also wrote the first product review that was published on RexxPlus, so I was quite surprised not to have heard back from Mark. That's why I sort of thought they might have gone out of business. I will try to contact them again, but I would appreciate if you can confirm that they still use the above phone number.
#43634From: Robert WilcoxNov 1, 1994 6:18 PM
CA's Programmer's Guide To ARexx provides sample sourcecode for a function library. The first step would be to create a library with the same name as the library of interest prefixed by rp – for example rpmylib.library for mylib.library. The function list needs to be modified to include all the function names in the library of interest. You can use a program such as Strings to extract the function names from the original library. Finally, you modify the dispatcher to return a boolean to indicate whether a function exists in the table. RexxPlus takes the boolean as indicator to code a direct reference to the target library at compile time. Note that you want to return the boolean instead of actually calling a function as that would require you to provide a stub for each name in the function table. With a little preplanning, you should be able to place thefunction list in a separate module so that you could easily create an rplibrary by linking in the function table of interest. This would be handy if you plan to do a number of these. Bob
#43637From: Steven D. KapplinNov 1, 1994 11:44 PM
Bob, So in effect an rp library is simply a library of function "names". When the function call is made in a RexxPlus program the compiler "calls" the rp library. The rp library simply returns a TRUE or FALSE to indicate the function exists or doesn't. If the "call" returns TRUE, then the compiler opens the real library for the real function call. Seems almost as though one could do that with an ARexx function library compiled by RexxPlus. Is there any way to avoid the need for the rp "fake" library? I ask because from what you have described, it would take a bit of work to do this. I'm really not set up to create a library from scratch. I'd have to dig out a C compiler and an assembler for all this. There must be a simpler solution????
#43710From: Robert WilcoxNov 4, 1994 7:09 PM
Your description of what an rp library does is correct. The way to avoid the need to create your own rp library is to convince Mark to do it. He probably has some tools to simplfy the process. Early versions of RexxPlus would call the function library directly but this proved unworkable, hence the rp libraries. I don't know of any way around this. My own testing suggests that the amount of speed-up using the rp libraries depends on the nature of the application, implementation lanquage of the target library, the specific function called , etc. You can attempt to control the search order by arranging to have a given library appear first in the search list.
#43713From: Steven D. KapplinNov 4, 1994 11:33 PM
Bob, Yes, I spent many hours on the phone with Mark during beta tests dealing with some of the early problems of accessing the many shared libraries and function hosts. Part of the problem was finding functions or dealing with function names which were the same in two different libraries or problems with the libraries returning values correctly. Even had one function host (not a library) which had two functions which simply wouldn't work from RexxPlus, although they worked fine otherwise. I think the rp libs were the best way Mark could devise which imposed a certain consistency across all libraries. Now if I could only get him to answer the phone or return my calls. BTW, have you tried David Junod's new ZedRexx? It's a relatively easy to use host for developing GUIs for ARexx programs. Much easier to use than APIG and more robust than rexxarplib.
#43782From: Robert WilcoxNov 7, 1994 7:29 PM
Yes I have ZEDRexx.