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#Architectural Animation?

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#134454From: Phillip L. MillerNov 8, 1994 6:14 PM
>> Any ideas on what is being done or what should be done in the education process?<< Don't get me started <g>! I assume you mean Architetcural Colleges correct? They, as a whole have to stop considering CAD as vocational skill and realize it for what it is – an indespenciblt component of modern construction documents that is NOT going to go away. Heck, it may even become mandiated by clients and angencies. Now the design process is still an upward fight. There's a lot of old guard faculty that will never change and a LOTto be said for traditional methods. Although 3DS IS extremely valuable, it's not quite there yet (let's be honost). The tools need to be improved to be a true visualization AND design enviornment. It needs to be fluid enough so design returns to being the task – not figuring out how to model what you already have designed. Maybe that's a couple of (software/hardware) generations away? Well, untill that is realized it will still remain the valuable tool of those few that can master BOTH design and 3D modelling. Untill that day, in-roads at the University level will be slow – it has a learning curve and creates a barrier between the designer and the design and those factors are very hard for studio professors to overlook or accept. For a while, I think it will remain in the "experemental" studios or as elective courses while CAD replaces traditional drafting entirely. Now, when the software breaks the design/intuition barrier for the majority of designers – look out! – Phil
#134464From: NAAUGNov 8, 1994 6:39 PM
/* documents that is NOT going to go away. Heck, it may even become mandiated by clients and angencies. */ Just a comment: "May"? In many cases it _IS_ mandated, especially in contractual work. Even in many government projects, CADD is mandated. 🙂
#134505From: Phillip L. MillerNov 8, 1994 9:15 PM
>>Just a comment: "May"? In many cases it _IS_ mandated, especially in contractual work. Even in many government projects, CADD is mandated. << Yup, I know. And the architectural profession, week as it is, is all too willing to give away the CAD .DWGs without a fight or request for additional service fees – possibly fofeiting future work and services since _their_ documents are now open to be accessed by any developer/contractor/unscrupulous architect. That is the "dark side" of CAD documents that could end up hurting the industry considerably.
#134538From: ROBERT RITGERNov 9, 1994 12:18 AM
//__________From your message___________\\ And the architectural profession, week as it is, is all too willing to give away the CAD .DWGs without a fight or request for additional service fees – possibly fofeiting future work and services since _their_ documents are now open to be accessed by any developer/contractor/unscrupulous architect. __________________________________________ This is a topic that I have been trying to bring out in the open at my firm. Like you, I see the potential disasters which loom on the horizon as CADD files are zinged around the planet. The design is owned by the architect, the drawings are owned by the architect, ONLY the building is owned by the client. IMHO, if an owner requests CADD files, the owner should be asked to PAY BIG, BIG, money for these files. Often contracts do not include any stipulation for distribution of electronic documents. This is a huge problem. Owners believe that they have a right to the files, this isn't necessarily so. I have never seen an owner's request turned down on this subject. We architects are shooting ourselves in the foot. In 3D the problem is just starting to emerge. For anyone who cares DON'T GIVE AWAY YOUR FILES !!!!
#134750From: David RhotenNov 9, 1994 6:48 PM
Hear hear! AND, I really really really really really think that Autodesk (and all the other CAD mfg's, for that matter) needs to implement a way to "lock" a drawing file IN the .DWG format itself! Then the electronic copy COULD be given away just as a paper copy is today, without the worry of alteration/re-use. Of course, even with paper copies, there is the ability fo the owner to wrongfully produce additional buildings. We've had that happen before. Dave
#134769From: ROBERT RITGERNov 9, 1994 7:49 PM
David: /_____________From your message_____________\\ I really really really really really think that Autodesk (and all the other CAD mfg's, for that matter) needs to implement a way to "lock" a drawing file IN the .DWG format itself! _______________________________________________ Like 3DS, I think some sneaky b*stard will crack the code and market a "key." Do you know of any developer who would have the scruples to turn this "key" down? NOT! Bob
#134978From: David RhotenNov 10, 1994 3:28 PM
Hey! I know! We'll require HARDWARE LOCKS for drawings! <GGG> Dave
#134580From: Ted BoardmanNov 9, 1994 8:00 AM
I think using these tools in the design process is still quite a ways off, but making good use of them the other 95% of the work day<g> is an aspect that still needs study. I also understand that if an architectual student spends the time to become a cad/3DS operator, there will be precious little time to learn everything else.