CompuServe Thread

#Open Letter to CEI

11 messages in this thread
#173623From: Marlene Zenker/SYSOPNov 22, 1994 9:59 PM
While we're blue skying here (Doesn't SCALA have that patented, after the last DevCon's speeches? <grin!>), how about this: If they do go RISC, make it PowerPC, and get Jim Drew's company to do the 680×0 emulation for it for software compatibility for older software. The chips should be fast enough to handle it, and it'll give the Amiga the installed software base it needs to jump to a new chipset? "What do you think, sirs?" – Joel Robinson
#173634From: Mark D. ManesNov 22, 1994 11:04 PM
I love MST3K! I agree–PowerPC makes the most sense. We have a PowerPC at Scala.. and while the 680×0 emulation is decent–it is not exciting. Me? If the chips were cheap enough–give me an 040 or a high speed 030 and a RISC CPU! 🙂 -mark= Otto Pilot Engaged..
#173724From: Jim Drew/UUINov 23, 1994 4:17 AM
Mark, The PowerMAC's 68K emulation is dirt slow compared to stuff we have already worked on… how dare you call it 'decent'. hehehe
#173957From: Eulogio (DJ) GarciaNov 24, 1994 1:18 PM
Jim, "stuff we have already worked on …", are you refering to the Emplant Mac emulation, or something else? DJ On AP from Queens, the thrill and excitement of the Big Apple Where a little paranoia keeps you healthy and sane …
#174026From: Jim Drew/UUINov 24, 1994 8:08 PM
Something else…
#174472From: Eulogio (DJ) GarciaNov 27, 1994 11:18 AM
"Something else …" a reply wrought with implied information – which I suppose the time is not ripe for you to share <g>? DJ On AP from Queens, the thrill and excitement of the Big Apple Where a little paranoia keeps you healthy and sane …
#173956From: Eulogio (DJ) GarciaNov 24, 1994 1:18 PM
Push the button, Frank … DJ On AP from Queens, the thrill and excitement of the Big Apple Where a little paranoia keeps you healthy and sane …
#173671From: Jim MaddoxNov 23, 1994 1:09 AM
>> If they do go RISC, make it PowerPC, and get Jim Drew's company to do >> the 680×0 emulation for it for software compatibility for older >> software. Definitely. >> The chips should be fast enough to handle it, and it'll give >> the Amiga the installed software base it needs to jump to a new >> chipset? Now, Steve. The PPC "should" be fast enough? "Should?!" "SHOULD?!?!" <g> Just remember that an Emplant can run programs as fast as or faster than a Mac with the same processor. Now imagine how fast one of UUI's emulators could go on a PPC! – Jim, on AutoPilot!
#173779From: Marlene Zenker/SYSOPNov 23, 1994 2:43 PM
I guess the point I was trying to make about the chips being fast enough is that we need an emulation that would be no slower than if you were using it on a native 680×0 processor. Anything after that would be gravy. 🙂
#173958From: Eulogio (DJ) GarciaNov 24, 1994 1:18 PM
Aren't we comparing apples and oranges here? One thing is to emulate a different system that uses the same instruction set (same CPU, even). It's very different to emulate a completely different CPU architecture (such as the PPC – 680×0, and UUI's 680×0 – 80586 (which we haven't seen any benchmarks on, other than Jim Drew's comment that animations will not cut it. DJ On AP from Queens, the thrill and excitement of the Big Apple Where a little paranoia keeps you healthy and sane …
#173992From: Jim MaddoxNov 24, 1994 2:38 PM
>> Aren't we comparing apples and oranges here? Possibly. >> …such as the PPC – 680×0, and UUI's 680×0 – 80586… The 586 emulation is supposed to run at 486 speed (but with a P5 instruction set). As for the software PowerMac 680×0 emulation, I've heard that a new, much faster version is coming (or maybe that was for the 486 emulation; I don't remember which). >> …(which we haven't seen any benchmarks on, other than Jim Drew's >> comment that animations will not cut it. Hey, don't forget we're talking PC emulation here…we all know PC's don't cut it at animations anyway. <g> – Jim, on AutoPilot!