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#Open Letter to CEI

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#173630From: Mark D. ManesNov 22, 1994 10:33 PM
Purchase Magic Workbench — and the MUI interface stuff! It is time to have a good looking Workbench standard! ApAssist–only when it becomes Screenmode independant. I find it unusable on my multisync since I do _not_ use mode promotion on my A4000. All Amigas should have 6 MB of RAM standard. 2 MB chip. 4 MB fast. The current Amiga can read/write IBM and Mac high density disks. CrossMac and CrossDOS provide this capability. It should be a standard part of the OS. -mark= Otto Pilot Engaged..
#173720From: Jeff WalkerNov 23, 1994 4:10 AM
MUI on an A1200 makes Windoze look fast. Jeff Walker.
#173731From: Wayne ColeNov 23, 1994 5:51 AM
Marc, On the Cross/x stuff, they should put then entire cross/x capability in there – format removable media to PC and Mac, a streaming tape save to the most popular Mac format – at least as a fall back to not bundling with mulitplatform emulation. wmc – via Autopilot!
#173861From: Leslie T. BartiromoNov 23, 1994 10:35 PM
-> ApAssist–only when it becomes Screenmode independant. Agreed. I'm sure Black Belt Systems could fix this if it were dependant of ApAssist being added to an upgraded Workbench. -> All Amigas should have 6 MB of RAM standard. 2 MB chip. 4 MB fast. I think that might be overkill on a low end machine. 1 MB fast RAM would speed up a 2 MB chip RAM machine nicely. -> The current Amiga can read/write IBM and Mac high density disks. CrossMac and CrossDOS provide this capability. It should be a standard part of the OS. I'm looking for the Amiga to seamlessly be able to read, write, and format an IBM or Mac data disk. No startup of additional programs, special drives, etc. Have you seen the Mac ads where the guy walks into a computer store and says he needs a "PC" that will read his disk? The retailer just plugs the disk into a Mac. It looks impressive in the commercial. zhL is some sort of Directory Utility to make the machine even easier to use. Something like DiskMaster would be perfect! I'd like to see a lower priced AGA machine. I don't use my Amiga for ).work so it's hard to justify a $2300-plus price tag, yet I'd like flexability of plug-in cards i.e. an AGA version of the A2000 with a built-in controller and hard drive. Something with super expandibility.
#173943From: Richard BeausangNov 24, 1994 12:26 PM
-> I'm looking for the Amiga to seamlessly be able to read, write, and format an IBM or Mac data disk. No startup of additional programs, special drives, etc. Have you seen the Mac ads where the guy walks into a computer store and says he needs a "PC" that will read his disk? The retailer just plugs the disk into a Mac. It looks impressive in the commercial.<- "It looks impressive in the commercial" is the key statement here. Have you seen the separate Apple file exchange program you use to do this? Not a bad program but still very much a separate program. The way CrossDos handles this on the Amiga is much more transparent. -Richard
#174171From: Leslie T. BartiromoNov 25, 1994 3:58 PM
Perhaps the Mac needs a special program to read and write IBM disks but I don't see how it would be that difficult for a drive to figure out what kind of disk it has been fed and use it accordingly.
#174250From: Richard BeausangNov 26, 1994 2:22 AM
The drive figures out if a disk is present and sends the info back to the OS. At least the disks are the same for the various platforms; it's the filesystems that vary. Stick a PC formatted disk in a Mac and it wants to know if you want to initialize it or eject it unless you're in the Apple file exchange program. Stick that same disk in an Amiga where CrossDos has transparently mounted the file system at startup and you can immediately copy files to and from it and load anything from the disk that your Amiga can use. Sounds pretty much like what you're asking for. -Richard
#174496From: Leslie T. BartiromoNov 27, 1994 12:33 PM
Perhaps the CrossDOS's are better than I thought. I hadn't thought of putting them in the startup-sequence/user-startup. Maybe I don't like the extra "PC" icon that pops up with 2.1's CrossDOS.
#174524From: Richard BeausangNov 27, 1994 3:01 PM
Leslie, Got to agree with you on the extra icon. I can't really put my finger on it but something about it mildly irritates me. I generally mount PC0 by clicking on it's icon WB3.x or from a script only When I know I'm going to be needing it. -Richard
#174531From: Eulogio (DJ) GarciaNov 27, 1994 3:43 PM
Richard, try MultiFileSystem, available somewhere up here <g>. It gives you only one icon, and uses DF0/1 as the device name no matter what the FS is – if it senses the disk is MS-DOS it will use CrossDOS, etc. When you go to format, a requester asks you which FS you want. I've been using it on my 3000 with 3.1 for over a month with no problem. DJ On AP from Queens, the thrill and excitement of the Big Apple Where a little paranoia keeps you healthy and sane …
#174685From: Trent K. JohnsonNov 28, 1994 3:21 AM
DJ: Does MFS have much overhead? Any known contention with Toasters? Thanks. Trent/ReAnimators
#173944From: Joachim SondermannNov 24, 1994 12:54 PM
>> I'd like flexability of plug-in cards i.e. an AGA version of the A2000 with a built-in controller and hard drive. Something with super expandibility. << I'd like to see that too. You need complete high end systems for pro use, of course. But there are those interested non professionals too that would like to gradually improve their system according to their needs and their purse. It was one strong argument for the A2000 until the AGA chip set materialized. Joachim Sondermann on Amiga AutoPilot from Cologne, Germany
#173990From: Peter WadeNov 24, 1994 2:38 PM
I totally agree that gradual expansion is desirable. When I bought this machine I wanted an Amiga 3000 but I didn't have that much money. So I bought an A500 Plus, then later a GVP A530 Turbo, then 4MBytes 32bit RAM, then a 68882 co-processor. So I ended up with a high performance system without having to pay for it all in one go. Over here in England we tend to assume that Americans have a lot more money to spend than we do. If this is true they are more likely to buy A4000s. I wonder how many people over here are like me and want the computing power but can't afford it all at once. Peter Wade Autopiloting from London, England
#174024From: Mark CorboNov 24, 1994 7:35 PM
You had one here. I bought the a600 for its affordability. This was when it was selling for $299. Two months later you could get it for $149. But, I enjoy the ease of use of the Amiga, and the general "feel" of it. So I'm not embittered. One of the benefits of the current situation is that it has forced me to wait to upgrade. I now have enough money stashed away to get myself a reasonably powerful system (an A400 BTW) -sorry, make that 4000- But if it wasn't for that I would still be in the same boat.
#174054From: Jim MaddoxNov 24, 1994 9:44 PM
re: low-end-to-high-end expandability How about having a bare-bones low-profile system with a processor slot, video (card) slot (not the kind for a Toaster), one expansion slot, and a wide bus connector on the side for hooking into a larger expansion case at a later date? (Kind of like the notebook "docking station" concept, except for a desktop unit). – Jim, on AP!
#174169From: Peter WadeNov 25, 1994 3:24 PM
That sounds great to me. The only drawback of my expansion path is that there are a lot of expansions I cannot use, like 24bit graphics cards and Emplant. If the larger expansion case had a full Zorro bus it would allow me to expand my system just as much as the 'serious' models. Peter Wade Autopiloting from London, England
#174070From: Betty Clay/SYSOPNov 24, 1994 10:08 PM
Peter, People here and people there are not all that different–in wishes OR in wealth. Some of us can afford more than others, in both countries. Some of us put computers ahead of other possessions–in both countries. But over here, the Video Toaster and SCALA and a few other things of that sort have made a tremendous demand for high-end Amigas in TV and movie studios, amusement parks, and other places that need that kind of video abilities. The Toaster, in particular, would not work with PAL systems, thus preventing that particular demand in the UK. Maybe that was one of the major differences. Actually, I think there are more high-end machines in the UK than most people over here think there are. —Betty
#174172From: Leslie T. BartiromoNov 25, 1994 3:58 PM
An AGA A2000 would be ideal for me. I can't afford to go for a fully blown A4000, yet an A1200 doesn't offer the expandibility I like.
#174244From: Lu BeranekNov 26, 1994 1:46 AM
If you're compiling a list, please, please, all systems to have system clocks! regards, Lu on AutoPilot downunder
#174498From: Leslie T. BartiromoNov 27, 1994 12:34 PM
-> If you're compiling a list, please, please, all systems to have system clocks! Excellent! I didn't even think of that! I realize Commodore was trying to save money but not to put a clock in the A1200 was inexcusable!