CompuServe Thread

#Market Survey

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#99820From: Ted HaskellDec 24, 1987 8:49 AM
One last point, copy protection and purchaser verifacation are both forms of anti-piracy tactics. Of the two, I would rather have a mild copy protection rather than a bureaucratic mess such as you are designing. Ted
#99828From: John Sobernheim(TCR)Dec 24, 1987 10:43 AM
Ted, How would you feel about Perry's Purchase Verification scheme if my proposed extensions (handling everything at point of sale) were in affect. As you buy something, at a store or mail-order, you will be asked to fill in a registration number. Takes about 2 minutes. No hastle, right? -John
#99861From: Ted HaskellDec 24, 1987 12:56 PM
John, several messages have answered your first question to me. I don't see the point of Perry's purchaser verification even if you make it point of sale. It's a major hassle for dealers if more vendors start up their onw versions of this and think of the problems when forms or number get messed up. I think it was time we started look at this from another point of view. If software was patented instead of copyright with an experation of 5 years, it would make vast quantities of proven routines and techniques available for use by other developers, thereby reducing their costs for product development by a monumental quantity. It would eliminate all these absurd legal hassles and problems with piracy etc. I can alsmost guarantee that it help to reduce the problem of making new software available to all these new computers. We have to stop thinking in these medieval terms of "I made it and it's mine for life and you can only use it if you do what I say". I'm only sorry we had to pick on Perry, who has done so much for Amiga owners. Unfortunately, he is persuing a course which is counter-productive to all. Hope this explains some of my concerns. Ted
#99865From: Doug WingerDec 24, 1987 1:18 PM
First, we kill all the lawyers…<grin> Doug.
#99867From: Ted HaskellDec 24, 1987 1:28 PM
Don't get me started on capricious law suits! <grin> Ted
#99900From: John FoustDec 24, 1987 5:55 PM
What do you propose instead of what you called a "medieval" system of property management? You've got to recognize that people should not be forced to give away their work. You are asking for people to give up the rights to software after five years? Sounds like "something for nothing" for a lot of lazy and inept people to rip off the talents of others.
#99904From: Steve AhlstromDec 24, 1987 6:12 PM
#99981From: Ben BlishDec 25, 1987 7:48 AM
How about "I made it, and you or your friends will probably steal it, so I'm not going to publish it"? Also known as: It won't be profitable to make item 'a', and so we won't do it. Meeting adjourned. –Ben–
#100338From: Charlie HeathDec 28, 1987 5:29 PM
Is your house five years old? Mind if I borrow the master bath?
#99880From: Perry S. Kivolowitz/ASDDec 24, 1987 2:48 PM
You know Ted, you've got a really bad attitude. This thread is here simply to stimulate conversation and discussion. You contribute messages which are tantamount to personal attacks. In short, bugger off. Besides, with even a modicum of care, anyone with half a brain and doctoral level training in computability can arrange for you to trace through code for centuries. Listen everybody, this is here for discussion. Cool off.