#3rdparty 3000 harddrives
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Many of you have read the thread where Dan Wolf explained that I was having
a problem with a 210 meg Rodime SCSI drive.
Well, the bottom line is, it doesn't work with the 3000. Dan has graciously
offered to eat the drive and order me another one, but is, of course, NOT
guaranteeing this one. (*VERY* understandable).
What I'd like to know is which drives, if any, has anyone here sucessfully
hooked up to a 3000/25? Preferably over 100 meg, but I have a feeling Dan
would be interested in knowing ALL the drives that do or don't.
Thank you in advance!
tmm/Richard Cunningham
hey, rick – hope we get some solid data in reply to your inquiry – I'd sure
like to know what always does and always DOESN't work with HD's on the
3000. let's hope some of you 3000 owners with experience on this will help.
Richard, any HD that supports both RDB (rigid Disk Block) and SCSIDirect
should basically be plug & play. Quantum scsi drives work great (I have a
Q52LPS ProDrive, and Q80S ProDrive half-height & a Q105S ProDrive
half-height).
– Whapp!ng from the North Coast Michael
the Rigid Disk Block and SCSIDirect are functions of software drivers for a
particular CONTROLLER card, not the individual hard drive.
No SCSI hard drive has the slighest idea what a RDB is or cares.
-Greg
News to me! Thanks for the info, as always.
– Whapp!ng from the North Coast Michael
what is more, Greg (and thanks), this particular Rodime 3259T works PERFECT
on my A2000 w/TrumpCardPro. It just won't work with the 3000. And it ain't
the first drive which was perfectly fine which won't work on a 3000. M.
Gerrard's comments welcome, but not the answer.
Thanks, Michael.
My first thought upon realizing that there WERE 3000&HD compatibility
problems was that I'd just stick with Quantums. Unfortunately, Dan's
distributors don't have Quantum 210's available right now and I really
insist on supporting Dan after all he's done for me. Maybe I'll step back
to the 105, but I really want the extra space.
Sigh 🙂
tmm/Richard Cunningham
Richard, I've got a Wren III (5.25 inch, full height 160M HD) and a 44M
Syquest on my 3000.
-sja
Thanks for the reply, Steve.
It's nice to know the Syquest works, but this drive will be a replacement
for the current Quantum50 in the 3000…same goes for the Wren (wrong
size). I'll pass both on to Dan, though, so he can start cataloguing. What
a nightmare this HD compatability issues could become! I do understand,
though, that CBM will be releasing a list of "3rd-party" HD peripherals
that they will support through an extension of Gold Service. I hope that
comes out soon.
tmm/Richard Cunningham
interesting, as one other person who responded earlier had had a problem
with a syquest on his 3000 – and yours works OK – quite the mystery. I've
had a report of a timing problem with a maxtor LX200 (I believe that was
the model #) on the 3000, too. The Wren, BTW, is an Imprimis product –
which IMHO is the Rolls Royce of HD's. I have a Wren6/HH 330 meg drive
(also now known by its Seagate alias as a 2383N) and it is one terrific and
FAST drive. So far I've heard of NO problems with Quantum or Imprimis on
the 3000. But, then, those drives DO sell for premium prices.
My Wren is not a a Seagate/Imprimis product — it's CDC.
steve – same thing – CDC owned IMPRIMIS and I believe it was a true
corporate subsidiary – then sold it to Seagate. Imprimis lives on under
the Seagate name now. CDC and Imprimis used to be two different ways of
saying the same thing – now that Seagate owns it there is some confusion as
there are some 'true' Seagate products and also the Imprimis line (wrens,
swifts, sabres, etc.) which is, I believe, still manufactured in a separate
facility in Oklahoma. I sure hope the Imprimis quality and technological
superiority is preserved as time goes on.
Daniel,
I believe that Seagate created Imprimis as a product line to differenciate
between their developed products and the purchased CDC technology. At any
rate, on all of tech and test documents I have on the drive "Imprimis"
isn't printed anywhere — just CDC.
interesting, steve. i have this drive (model # 94241-383) in original
Imprimis packing styrofoam (with Imprimis product label, bar codes,etc.)
with a label saying 'Imprims Technology, Inc Oklahoma City, OK' The
94241-383 is definitely a CDC part #, but I also have Seagate product
catalog where this is called a Wren6 Half-height Seagate 2383N. Seagate
won't supply me with a CDC/Seagate part # cross reference. I am 99% certain
that Imprimis was broken off of CDC BEFORE the sale to Seagate but am
interested to get the unvarnished FACTS from anyone who knows the REAL
skinny on this …
Richard,
ANY drive that meets the SCSI I spec should work. If it doesn't,
then there's a problem in the cable, controller, software or drive itself.
Don
Ah! So that's the problem! Must be the cable, controller, software or the
drive! (all of which have been ruled out by scientific controlled
experiments in this case except the controller …..) thanks don – had to
chuckle after all the grief 🙂
Richard,
That Rodime should have worked fine. I don't have an A3000, so how
should I know? I thought SCSI was SCSI, but maybe the C= controller isn't
following all the rules? But I've had no problems with WB2.04 and my
Conners CP3100 100meg, it works fine, so do my Syquests, all chained to a
GVP Series I controller. I also have a PRIAM ST-506 108MB drive chained to
a KRONOS controller. These are all stuffed (overstuffed) into a B2000/3001
10MB Amiga. I'll take that Rodime if its selling for lesser $$$. B^)
Chris