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2090 Problems?

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#17924From: Gary MacDougallDec 18, 1991 2:48 PM
Anyone know anything about harddrives? I have an ST506 (Microbolis 40Meg) which is fairly old (1986). My controller is a 2090, both are connected to an A500 via an expansion bus (allows 2000 cards) by a defunct company called "Pacific Periphials". The problem Im having is that I keep losing sectors and getting read/write errors. This only seems to happen after about 2-3 hours use (consecutive). The scenerio is that I boot up fine, start working and after a while I start getting read/write errors and errors validating keys. I usually have to format that partition and start from scratch (I've become a pro at backups!!). I've tried everything from re-"preping" the drive to even going to an IBM-PC (A real one ) and doing a low-level format. Nothing seems to work. I have to presumtions, one: The drive could be shot. However, I can format this thing and it seems to work fine RIGHT AWAY. There are no signs of crashes or anything of that sort. two: Maybe the controller is getting too warm!?!?!?!? This is what I think might be causing the problem. There is not that much ventilation in the expansion bus and it is getting warm, not hot but warm. My qustion is, has anybody run into this or had this similiar experience? If so, help! Thanks, Gary MacDougall (70744,63)
#17950From: Don Curtis/SYSOPDec 19, 1991 12:16 AM
Gary, Check the drive for how hot it's getting. Next thing…did you mark out the bad sectors during PREP..those that came on the drive? Don
#17975From: Gary MacDougallDec 19, 1991 2:01 PM
Yes I marked the sectors on the drive. It was causing problems even after I marked them with Prep. As far as "how" warm the drive is getting. I'll check this, I'll have to fire up my machine tonight and work a couple hours to see how warm its getting. If it's getting warm, what does this mean? Thanks for your input. I'll let you know. Gary
#18002From: Don Curtis/SYSOPDec 20, 1991 1:25 AM
Gary, If it's getting too hot…it could be expanding (simple heat expansion) too much causing it to go out of alinement. Don
#17976From: Vic WagnerDec 19, 1991 2:26 PM
Gary, I'd like to "ditto" Don's comments. Also, I'd suggest that if you insist on turning off and on the drive, that you let it 'warm up' for say 30 minutes before you prep/format it.
#18223From: Gary MacDougallDec 23, 1991 9:32 PM
Thanks for the input Vic and Don… However, I tried "warming" up the drive about 30 minutes before preping it. This didn't seem to work. Also, I used the drive for about 4 hours the other day and it didn't seem to get warm at all, it stayed relativally a little above room temp. Im at wit's end here. I talked to my local Amiga dealer and he seems to remember having problems with a 2090/2090A and Micropolis drives. My business partner (who's MUCH more hardware oriented) seems to think that the media on the drive is "dropping-out", like a magnetic tape would after many hours of use. I don't buy this argument, my rebutle was: If the media is bad why does the drive even format? And the only sectors that seem to be choking or having problems during a format are the ones marked on the error-table for the drive. Any more suggestions? Has anyone had problems with Micropolis? Thanks, Gary
#18244From: Don Curtis/SYSOPDec 24, 1991 1:33 AM
Gary, I forget if you said you low level formatted it on another machine, if you did…then I have no other suggestions for you. IF you didn't, and have access to a machine where you can low level format it…you might try that. Don
#18302From: Gary MacDougallDec 26, 1991 9:11 AM
I low level formatted the drive on an old XT (A real one at that!). This did not seem to correct the problem. Thanks anyway for your suggestions…
#18246From: Peter SmithemDec 24, 1991 7:34 AM
I've been running a 70 Meg Micropolis on a 2090A for the last couple of years with no problems at all. The only drive I have problems with is the Quantum 40. I never bothered geting the ROM upgrade I heard about and occasionally the drive locks up on boot. Never did get the Quantum to format FFS until I upgraded to 2.0. The Micropolis works great. Peter
#18303From: Gary MacDougallDec 26, 1991 9:12 AM
Hmmmmm. Is your Micropolis a SCSI or ST506? Im using an old ST506 and there seems to be some conflict. Thanks for your input… Gary
#18321From: Peter SmithemDec 26, 1991 3:45 PM
The Micropolis is an old unit I acquired for nothing from someone's junk pile and uses an ST-506 interface. The only time I have had problems with it was when I was working and left it on at home to transfer files to work and our wonderful power company spiked the power off and on several times while I was transferring files, causing the standard problems of a partially updated disk. Peter
#18355From: Gary MacDougallDec 27, 1991 10:33 AM
Hmmm. You've raised an interesting point Peter. I turn off my system by shutting off the power strip that feeds my drive, the computer and the monitor. As well as the expansion box that is housing my 2090. Could turning off and on the power continuouslly cause some read/write problems? Now, I make sure there is no I/O to the drive before I shut it down. But cold there be a problem in doing this? I wonder… Thanks, Gary
#18372From: John PendergrassDec 27, 1991 7:26 PM
Gary, I run my system the same way…. everything is connected to a power strip (except my DJ, which I keep on all the time so I don't have to reload fonts :)…. I've never had a problem. Just FYI. But the system isn't turned off THAT often, either 🙂 –jp–seattle–
#18424From: Peter SmithemDec 29, 1991 11:29 AM
I do something very similar with no problems. I have one of the current sensing power filters hooked up so that the computer, modem and external hard drive all shut down when I hit the switch on the monitor. Peter