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A1200 Performance

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#81486From: R. Simonsen/MicroBoticsDec 15, 1992 5:08 PM
AIBB V.5.0 BENCHMARK COMPARISON OF THE AMIGA 1200 IN THREE CONFIGURATIONS CHIPRAM ONLY; WITH PCMCIA RAM; AND WITH MBX 1200 FASTRAM Results are normalized on the standard A1200 (chipram only), i.e., ChipRAM 1200 = 1.0 in all tests TEST TYPE CHIPRAM PCMCIA MBX 1200 WritePixel 1.00 0.63 2.15 Sieve 1.00 0.98 1.21 Dhrystone 1.00 0.73 1.85 Sort 1.00 1.08 1.44 Matrix 1.00 0.80 1.60 IMath 1.00 0.79 1.24 Memtest 1.00 1.00 1.31 TGTest 1.00 0.79 1.17 Average 1.00 0.85 1.50 Savage 1.00 0.62 55.24 FMath 1.00 0.58 6.02 FMatrix 1.00 0.64 1.61 BeachBall 1.00 0.64 10.36 SWhetstone 1.00 0.61 16.48 DWhetstone 1.00 0.61 17.49 FTrace 1.00 0.62 28.37 CPLXTest 1.00 0.63 2.15 Average FP 1.00 0.62 17.22 Overall Average 1.00 0.73 9.36 Note: the bottom half of the table presents results of floating-pointintensive benchmarks. CONCLUSION: The PCMCIA Memory is a definite liability –and MBX 1200 FastRAM is a clear advantage. Note: my company makes MBX 1200 [MicroBotics] –I feel that the PCMCIA issue is of general enough interest to warrant publishing these figures. –Redmond
#81652From: Robert ComerDec 16, 1992 8:10 PM
Redmond, where can we order one of the MBX 1200? I just pre-ordered an A1200, and I'll need expansion ASAP Are you going to sell in house, or just to distributers? Bob Comer
#81655From: Ben A LottDec 16, 1992 9:09 PM
We'll have them on Friday,(MBX 1200) how much RAM do you want? BEN:Leigh's Computer's
#81715From: Black Belt SystemsDec 17, 1992 1:31 PM
When will you have 1200's, Ben? Are they shipping yet, or soon? –Ben …via AutoPilot
#81733From: Ben A LottDec 17, 1992 7:33 PM
In the the immortal wisdom of C=, they should ship … Dec. 30th (at the latest), according to my rep. (Briliant huh? gee AFTER Xmas) BEN:Leigh's Computer's
#81744From: Black Belt SystemsDec 17, 1992 9:32 PM
Oh, fabulous. :^S –Ben …via AutoPilot
#81769From: Andrew BrownDec 18, 1992 4:24 AM
Ben, Fly over to London…. I went shopping at Harrods yesterday and almost tripped over a ten high stack of 1200's in the 'Electric Dreams' department ! No HD models though… Andrew.
#81826From: Black Belt SystemsDec 18, 1992 6:38 PM
I won't be going to London again until next fall… hopefully by then CBM/US will have their act together, at least as regards shipping 1200's, eh? <grin> –Ben …via AutoPilot
#82031From: Jim SakladDec 20, 1992 5:50 PM
Ben – > …next fall… hopefully by then CBM/US will have their act together Yeah, but by then CBM will have released something ELSE in Europe that marketing won't have figured out what to do with in the U.S.! . . . . JimDoc, on AutoPilot
#82037From: Black Belt SystemsDec 20, 1992 6:45 PM
All too likely. –Ben …via AutoPilot
#82077From: Andrew BrownDec 21, 1992 7:06 AM
Well if you can't wait let me know and I'll DHL one over to you ! I'm sure the power supply wouldn't be a problem for you… Andrew.
#82115From: Black Belt SystemsDec 21, 1992 3:41 PM
Er…. "DHL One" what? I've lost the thread, somehow. –Ben …via AutoPilot
#81880From: Steve GoddardDec 19, 1992 6:32 AM
Apparently, in the UK, the games market is currently hoovering up all the spare 1200s as a sort of super-console. Maybe when things settle down a little, the HD models will start appearing. Certainly the box comes with a range of HD sizes and tickboxes. Sadly, the 0MB HD box was ticked on mine. Steve the G. [BEDFORDSHIRE, UK]
#81916From: Black Belt SystemsDec 19, 1992 2:19 PM
"Hoovering up"…. a short story… A friend of mine has his dog trained so that if anything falls from the table (he has 3 kids, things do that quite often) he yells "HOOVER!" and Punhc, a golden retriever, will come a-running and suck up the offending detrius. I always thought it was very cute. :^) –Ben …via AutoPilot
#82076From: Andrew BrownDec 21, 1992 7:06 AM
Steve, funnily enough, my dealer just rang and offered me an A1200 with a hard drive. Trouble is I'm not sure what I would do with one. Would it fit inside my tower ? :^) Andrew.
#81757From: John GagerDec 17, 1992 11:41 PM
That's one thing I've never been able to figure out about CBM is why they always seem to start shipping new stuff AFTER Xmas. Didn't they also do this with CDTV? John – K7KB (Flying via AutoPilot)
#81729From: Lap Wah LeeDec 17, 1992 7:03 PM
Say do you happen to have the 1200 in stock yet. I looking to upgrade and would appreciate a price because I live in the city. Thanks, Lap.
#81734From: Ben A LottDec 17, 1992 7:35 PM
see my previous reply, *sigh* C= can't live with 'em can't live without 'em. BEN:Leigh's Computer's
#81924From: Brian CowanDec 19, 1992 3:08 PM
Do you have a projected price on them WITH a 2.5" IDE Hard drive? Not the 40MB drive that is reputed to be the one for the A1200HD, but a bigger one in the 100MB range is possible…. Thanks… // Brian — Cruising on AutoPilot….. \X/
#82144From: Ben A LottDec 21, 1992 7:35 PM
we're selling the 1200 with an 85 meg drive for $899.00, with a 128 meg for $1199.00. BEN:Leigh's Computer's
#82189From: Black Belt SystemsDec 22, 1992 12:45 AM
Ben, Have you got your 1200's in stock yet? –Ben …via AutoPilot
#82749From: Ben A LottDec 26, 1992 6:25 PM
Not yet hoping for Monday. BEN:Leigh's Computer's
#82191From: Tony MoriDec 22, 1992 1:12 AM
$300 difference for 40 MB of space? What's up? I can get Maxtor 212MB IDE HD's for about $400! how can a jump from 80Mb to 120MB be so much? Tony
#82198From: Dave CinegeDec 22, 1992 1:35 AM
These are 2.5" drives….a bit more expensive then the very common 3.5" form factor drives. Dave Elite MicroComputers – via Whap!
#82204From: Tony MoriDec 22, 1992 1:58 AM
oh…well…in THAT case, i'll shut up! <G> geez! a 60MB cost me $269 in Sept….. Tony
#82440From: Brian CowanDec 23, 1992 8:36 PM
And how! But I know of a source to Maxtor 2.5" 80 MB drives at $215 a shot. I was looking to buying a 1200 and doing a DIY HD upgrade. But this looks to be more than a bit cheaper….. // Brian — Cruising on AutoPilot….. \X/
#82487From: Dave CinegeDec 24, 1992 3:02 AM
If you've got the skills to do it….go for it At least you can get the 1200 without a HD….something not avalible with most other Amigas. Dave Elite MicroComputers – via Whap!
#82750From: Ben A LottDec 26, 1992 6:26 PM
They are 2.5" drives, yes it is an INSANE jump but thats what the industry's charging for the convienience of 2.5" as opposed to 3.5". BEN:Leigh's Computer's
#81868From: R. Simonsen/MicroBoticsDec 19, 1992 2:40 AM
Bob: if you are an owner of MicroBotics peripherals and/or a registered developer or Amiga editorial person, we have a user sale program. I know that a number of the larger mail order outfits will be carrying them at decent prices. You might try (for example) AMIGAMAN/computer basics. Right now, we are shipping these puppies as fast as we can make em. The Amiga 1200 is *taking off* bigtime. (thank goodness!) –Redmond
#81899From: Robert ComerDec 19, 1992 10:52 AM
Nope, I don't have any microbotics stuff yet, nor am I a developer, as to an editorial person, I spout of about the Amiga all the time ;D but I don't think that counts! Acutally I had a VXL on order, but the place I ordered it from had back order problems with another part (for 2 months!) Then the 1200 came out, so I cancelled the order… I'll give a couple of MO companies a call next… is *taking off* bigtime. (thank goodness!) — Redmand Most definitely, thank goodness! Now if we can just PC'rs to look at the new video stuff! Bob Comer p.s. Thanks for the reply!
#81696From: don myklebustDec 17, 1992 5:39 AM
Could you (or somebody) do an AIBB on the 1200 with and without MBX normalized against the 2000 with A2620? I have 1 meg chip, 2 megs on 2620 and 4 megs 16 bit ram, if it makes that much difference. Can't afford a 4000, been looking real hard at '030 board, but just might switch if there's some speedup involved with the 1200. I'm in a tough spot for rationalizing a new machine, doncha see .. <grin> Ex-IBMer at work is looking hard at 1200. He'll be interested too. -DonM – On Autopilot from 1Q1 – Altitude hold is on; now all's I need is coupled nav!
#81872From: R. Simonsen/MicroBoticsDec 19, 1992 3:09 AM
I won't be able to get to that before the holidays, Don: the AIBB I'm using no longer includes the 020 figures so I'd have to make a new module using a 2620. I do have figures normalized against a chipram A500 (which you could then use to interpolate your 020 speed). Would that help? –Regards, Redmond
#81878From: don myklebustDec 19, 1992 6:17 AM
Yes, that would do very well. Don't spend a lot of time on my account. I've been telling this prospective 1200 lust-afterer that it should run significantly faster than my machine. I just don't know how much. -DonM – On Autopilot from 1Q1 – Altitude hold is on; now all's I need is coupled nav!
#82207From: Christopher LapriseDec 22, 1992 2:44 AM
Don, even if there is no speed improvement in the A1200 CPU, the graphics will be much faster.. and that counts as much as the CPU where the Amiga is concerned. -Chris