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#Editing Controllers

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#24568From: Julio Angel CruzDec 17, 1992 12:21 PM
I'm considering an editing equipment (Umatic) for use with the Video Toaster. The VTR's are The Sony VO-9800 and VO-9850. I'm planning to further expand it to make A/B roll editing. The main doubt I have is about the editing controller. I've seen information about the Sony BVE-600 and Sony BVE-900 ones, but I think they're too expensive. Is there any other brand that makes less expensive editing controllers to use with Sony VTR's, which let you do A/B roll editing and use GPI trigger (for the Toaster)? Thanks for any help, Julio.
#24581From: Mike BerroDec 17, 1992 7:59 PM
Julio, The "AmiLink" editing system runs on a native Amiga, and interfaces directly to the Toaster. Thus you can specify exact transitions in your edit list instead of relying on GPI. It's a bit pricey (for the Amiga market), but you can start cuts-only and expand to 31 tape machines. A/B should run well under $10K. AmiLink is by RGB Systems, in Florida. —Mike
#24593From: Julio Angel CruzDec 17, 1992 10:43 PM
Thanks for the info. Have you heard about the Videomedia editing systems?
#24606From: Wayne ColeDec 18, 1992 2:03 AM
Videomedia is the HW that AmiLink is hosted on. If you have a PC you can get the equivalent of Amilink from VideoMedia at 1/3 the cost of AmiLink. wmc – via Autopilot!
#24620From: Mike BerroDec 18, 1992 12:43 PM
Julio, AmiLink uses the Videomedia hardware. The advantage of AmiLink is that it interfaces with the Toaster. I do not recommend the AmiLink, I merely mention it as an alternative. There are a dozen low-cost editing systems that work just fine. —Mike
#24605From: Wayne ColeDec 18, 1992 2:03 AM
Julio, Beware of AmiLink. It is dongle-ized and the tech support STINKS!!! The documentation is also many revs behind the program and they have no intention of upgrading the docs. AmiLink is basically a rip-off and RGB are rip-off artists. I own the product and rue the day I bought it. wmc – via Autopilot!
#24712From: JAMES W LINEHANDec 20, 1992 1:08 AM
The Super Micron interfaces to the Toaster
#24735From: Julio Angel CruzDec 20, 1992 2:54 PM
I have heard about the Super Micron a lot. Can you describe it for me, please? Thanks to you and all, Julio
#24777From: Wayne ColeDec 21, 1992 2:22 AM
Ah – and does the super micron run without RGB software? What is the current streat price for a super micron a/b roll VT setup for RS/422 decks? wmc – via Autopilot!
#24608From: Chris GentschDec 18, 1992 4:19 AM
Julio, check out the Editizer, a PC based editor for around $2000. That and the Videomedia OZ are apparently excellent PC type editors that are rapidly replacing traditional boxes. I'm using a CMX300, but for $11,000 grand today you can get alot of gear. Also check out the new Sony EVO9850 Hi8 decks. You could shoot hi8 (with a good 3chip camera or one chipper) and edit to umatic with built in TBC, drop out compensator, frame accurate time code, Umatic dub out, etc. This is my favorite set up these days – I wouldn't ever think of shoot with 3/4 again (though I do use betacam alot) when you can get such good results with Hi8. Good luck with your new systems.
#24638From: Peter GreciDec 18, 1992 5:00 PM
Chris—>>> a much better solution to the Tao Editizer is the Matrox Producer.It's $1000 more than the Editizer Does the Same Editing functions PLUS comes with a Illuminator Pro 16 Card and software to simulate A/B Rolls with a single source VTR.Give them a call for their FREE Demo Tape.BTW this is also a IBM/Clone based goody.
#24752From: JERRY HATCHETTDec 20, 1992 6:58 PM
I have the TAO Editizer, and have been using it for about a month. It seems to work very well, and does indeed give you full control over the Toaster. You can bring up a window that looks just like the Toaster control panel, and control it directly from your PC. You can also specify Toaster transitions for each transition that the Editizer performs. My one word of caution: Be VERY sure that their package ALREADY supports your equipment. I talked to TAO prior to purchasing mine, and they assured me of support for the Sony EVO-9650 by 12/1, although their brochure listed availability as the THIRD quarter of '92, which was already over. They also promised to write drivers for the NEC PC-VCR's, which I have 2 of, and said that would take "about 3-4 weeks". I FedEx'd one of these $2000 machines to them. They kept it 4 weeks and sent it back with an "I'm sorry, but…." note attached. The tech support department (1 guy) also says that support for the 9650 by JAN 1 sure is an "optimistic" outlook by the people in the sales office. To sum it up, I have 3 VCR's which are near useless as far as the Editizer is concerned, 2 NEC PC-VCR's and 1 9650. So I'm doing my editing with 2 EVS-3000's and 1 Panasonic AG-1960. Good Luck, Jerry Hatchett