#DOpus 4.0
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I just read that in the Amiga Vendor forum and am totally outraged! To
have to pay $40+ for an upgraded version of a directory utility is quite
simply ridiculous. I also heard that Inovatronics plans to sell DOpus 4.0
for $99.00 retail….. FORGET IT!
I personally feel sorry for all the current owners of DOpus and would
advise them to seek thier directroy utilities from the numerous freely
distributible selection contained here, many of which rival DOpus in
qualitly.
Speaking of DirUtils — what's the best in PD/shareware these days? There
was a LOT of talk a year or so ago about SID 2.0 — then nothing. Is it
now out of fashion? What's good these days?
-sja
Steve,
I use Directory Opus but some of my friends swear by DirWorks, we have
some quite heated discusions at our users group over the merits of Opus vs
DirWorks! I am not sure of the most current version but there is a fairly
new release in the libraries here in User.
…Steve
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Steve,
Ok — just curious. I use DirOpus — but I've never upgraded it — I've
got version 3.22. Other than not being font sensitve in the menus and
having lots of mungwall hits, it works well enough for what I use it for.
I'm going to pass on the $40 upgrade, tho.
Sid 2.0 is out but it can only be started by an IconX script and has thei
annoying little window that hangs around (i.e. it does not detach from the
initiating CLI). Due to the way it initializes I could never get it to
rum from the dock in AmiDock. Once it is running it is a very good
dirutil, however. Anfd 2.0 is much more configurale thatn previous
versions were. I'm hoping there will be an update that allows full
autonomous execution from workbench, but as a registered user I have not
been advised of such an update.
wmc – via Autopilot!
Wayne,
Are you using the runback_wb2.x including in the Sid distribution? I
have no problems with getting Sid to detach from the initiating cli. I
open it up from the Tool Manager menu.
-Richard
Steve-
I think the commotion about Sid 2.0 awhile back was general anxiousness
for its release. I've been using it quietly and happily ever since as I
bet are a number of others. There were/are a few bugs in it. Decompressing
files to Ram: and selecting custom menu items before loading directories
will cause system lockups. These are easily avoidable and may even be
fixed by now. I've noticed a new bug since I've installed an 040,
occasionally scrolling to the bottom of a directory will freeze the
system. Other than that, it's a real masterpiece.
-Richard
Richard,
I too was somewhat shocked at the upgrade price on Opus. BUT look at
the quality of the program and compare what an equivelant program would
cost you for a MS DOS clone or a MAC, If you could find one!
I don't like paying more for software but if the Amiga is going to
continue to be a viable platform for developers to make a living, we (the
Amiga comunity) are going to have to start paying more for the quality
programs. I believe that is one of the reasons some of the major s/w
vendors do not get into the amiga market; our s/w is generally 1/3 to 1/2
the price of comparable products.
JMHO
…Steve
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Well, I'm not sure I agree with your reasoning. To charge users $40,
which is MORE than the original mail-order cost, for an upgrade would be
similar to CBM telling users: "Sure, we'll sell you a 1 Meg Agnus chip, but
it's gonna cost you MORE than your Amiga did to start with." If CBM told
you this, would you still buy the Agnus chip? Would you EVER do business
with them again? Probably not.
Richard,
I found this in my mail-ordrer BBS catalog for the older OPUS.
Description Manufacturer Suggest CSN'S
Retail PRICE!
Directory Opus ———- Inovatronics ——- $ 59.95 $ 28.98
So why update, just re-purchase from a good mailorder store. The 4.0
version can't be much more than the older version.
Chris
In fact the New Doupus price is retail of $99, street price around $60-70
Forrest
Chris, the mail-order price of Opus 4.0 will DEFINITELY be more than
$40.00. The new price for Opus is $99.95 and it is simple economics that
even the mail-order prices will be higher than before.
Martin
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Sure Martin,
I didn't expect it to remain at the older version's price. I just felt
that from this particular mailorder outlet it may be closer to the update
price.
Chris
Richard, in this case the cost of the product has gone up. That is why the
upgrade cost for the new Opus is higher.
Martin
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Richard,
What YOU have to decide is if the update is worth the price to YOU. If
it is go for it, if it is not then don't. I still maintain that software
for the Amiga is to cheap to draw the big software houses into the market.
I like the lower cost but would rather pay more for a wider selection and
some of the more esoteric stuff that is just not being developed for the
Amiga. If Opus was available for the Mac how much do you think it would
cost?
…Steve
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I recommend DiskMaster 2 to everyone. It does most of what Directory
Opus does, uses less RAM & disk space, allows mulitple windows, and is
cheaper.
Richard,
While it seems that $40 is a bit high for the DOpus 4.0 upgrade, I
haven't seen the upgrade yet or heard about any of its new features. I am
inclined to upgrade. DOpus is a fabulous program. Far better than any of
the PD programs I've ever used or heard about. It might just be a
directory utility, but I use it all the time and I find it to be
indispensable.
Dom Fontana
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er hum…
except the print utility never quite worked, the shwo utility has problems
with HAM (show it to quick to see if you are using the sutopoint
commodity) you can't unarc into the same directory as the arc file without
causing a crash, and Innovision refuses to fix any of these problems in
spite of numerous communications that included letters with disks, phone
calls and conversations at trades shows with follow-up letters and a
repeat of the disks.
Now if they were responsive and all those things were fixed, it was AGA,
'040 and all the enforcer hits were removed, it might be worth the $40.
But one gets the feeling that you'll pay the money, get the upgrade and
when something doesn't work you'll et to spend another 18 months on the
"gee thats too bad, send some disks…" merry-go-round."
wmc – via Autopilot!
Wayne, you will be glad to know that Directory Opus 4.0 does have all of
the problems that you have mentioned fixed, as well of course, as an
enourmous quantity of new features.
The HAM-AutoPoint problem is solved. It has no known Enforcer hits. It is
AGA/AA and Amiga 4000 compatible. You can, of course, unarc an arc file to
the same dir it is in.
I think that 90% of the good suggestions made to us, by both end-users and
CBM, have been integrated into the new Opus. It is really incredible.
Martin
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Wayne,
I'm in the auto-upgrade program for DirOpus, so they've sent me the
upgrade for $30.00, which includes S&H. That's $15 less than what others
have to pay. I never had a problem with the print utility; just with the
print command itself, and that's rather minor. I've never had ANY other
problem with the program. I use it exactly the way I want and none of the
problems you mentioned have ever surfaced for me. I wasn't even aware of
the other bugs you mentioned. I guess you do some things with DirOpus that
I don't. The program has NEVER crashed for me even once.
I guess it would be frustrating if you reported the bugs and they never
fixed them. Then again, maybe you're the only one who reported those bugs.
It still doesn't make it right that they didn't fix them. Maybe they have
been fixed in the upgrade. If so, then your claim that they never fixed
them would be incorrect. They did fix them in the next upgrade. It's just
that the next upgrade took a little while. 😎
Dom Fontana
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Dominick,
DOpus 4.0 features include:
Graphic Display Support:
AGA/AA(4000/1200
All ILBM Formats(Including SHAM)
Anim and Anim Brush Playback
Audio Support:
Noisetracker
SoundTracker
ProTracker
MED w/MIDI
Oktalyzer
8SVX
Raw Data
Runs Executables
Displays Fonts
Displays Text Files-Normal or ANSI
Displays HEX Files
Unlimited User Configurable Buttons
Unlimited Configurable Device Buttons
Launches CanDo Decks
Built-in User definable sorts and searches
"online" help
Full Arexx support
Check out the inside of the back cover of January's AmigaWorld.
RJ……….on AutoPilot
I have also posted a complete DOpus 4.0 fact sheet in the AmigaVend
INOVAtronics section.
Martin
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Robert,
Thanks for the 4.0 info.
Dom Fontana
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