#VOTE BEST/WORST CD-ROM
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There are some very good CD-ROM titles on the market, and there are some
that aren't worth carrying home, let alone, paying for them. If you'd like
to make your voice heard, please vote here. List your top ten and your
bottom ten (and please make sure to say which is which).
We will compile this information, post it back on CIS, and probably also
get it published. (We will correlate the information with data that we are
receiving from stores. We know which discs are selling the best but that
might mean nothing more than that a lot of people are getting stuck!)
If you have private comments, please E-Mail me. Otherwise, please put it
here in this thread!
LETS GO GET 'EM, TIGERS!
I don't have 20 CD's, Top 10 + Worst 10, yet. :}
I would like to vote the following however:
TOP
Microsoft Cinemania
Just Grandma and Me
Worst
World Atlas (ToolWorks)
My humble opinion.
BEST Computer Select (despite their boneheaded licensing schema and lack of
graphics)
Street Atlas (despite a few mistakes in the data)
WORST CIA Fact Book (gimmee a break)
Mayo CLinic Family Health Disc (on the order of "the lungs are in the
chest,
the bowels are in the abdomen) World Atlas
Jan…Let's see.
Best: Microsoft Cinemania
Microsoft Bookshelf/Word for Windows
Library of the Future
Worst: Timetable of History/Science & Innovation (horrid interface)
We don't have that many, either, but my votes are: BEST: Sherlock Holmes
Consulting Detective
Mega Demo 1 from Profit Press – very nice interface and a great deal.
WORST: CD Game Pack II
However, Christmas is close… who knows what we'll find under the tree!
sorry to crash in, I think my old Microsoft Bookshelf is still the best and
most utilised, I agree with the worst though, wonder why I bought it the
first place
Jan, here are my votes for top and bottom:
Top (in no particular order):
Microsoft Musical Instruments
Microsoft Cinemania
Microsoft Multimedia Beethoven
Microsoft Word/Bookshelf
Street Atlas USA
Bottom:
U.S. Atlas (Software Toolworks)
Jan… I'm a new CDROM user. But Compton's Family Encyclopedia is a
disappointment… The MM is a few notes in the margins you click on to get
pix, sounds, or graphs.
Carmen Deluxe is pretty tough. Nautilus is darned interesting.
I'm enjoying this thread cuz I'm looking for some good disks. Bet there's
alot of us out here…. waiting for this thread….
Maybe another way to do this BEST/WORST thing is to have people list all
the CD-Discs they own, and issue a rating of 1 to 10 for each one. That
way, you can compile all the numbers and get an idea of each participant's
view and tastes. You might also find people to write reviews of discs they
own that you haven't already found authors for.
Chuck,
Good suggestion! (Actually, we have been asking authors to write reviews
on discs they already have, for some time now. We immediately send them a
new disc for the article ((and invite them to write a review on that also))
).
Jan
Ok, I can't stand it any longer…here's my list
(Rating 1 – stinks to 5 Excellent)
Good music while I compute 5
Carmen Sandiego 4
New Grolier Multimedia 3 (nice improvement over last year)
Great Cities of World Vol1 -5 (ugliest program in history)
Great Wonders of World Vol2 2
Sherlock Holmes 2 – 3
Beethoven 5 (addictive)
Mammals 3 (next try will get higher marks)
World Atlas 2 (fun in short bursts)
Time Almanac whaaaat? 1 (imagine re-reading Time)
Time Table 1 (great idea now do it faster )
Most wanted feature – decent printer drivers, like color and laser
Most ridiculous feature – installation, I mean where do these people come
from?
Battle Chess 3
Best: Corel Draw 3.0 on CD-ROM Map Expert (data accuracy could be better)
Danger Hot Stuff (good quantity vs price ratio) GIF's Galore (5000 GIF's
for under $30) Microsoft Bookshelf (mostly because of the World Almanac and
quotations) Library of the Future Second Edition (reader has a minor
problem)
Worst: Phetheans Public Domain Library #1 (only salvation: King James
Bible) <g> Stellar 7 (CD-ROM remake of a mediocre DOS game) Jones in the
Fast Lane (good MM demo disk, but lousy game)
Bruce,
Is it a decent copy of the King James ? I've been looking for one on CD for
searches…
James, I have not analyzed the accuracy of the King James Bible on
Phethean's Public Domain Library #1. I bought the CD-ROM for $10 at a swap
meet. There is no search engine for the Bible on the CD-ROM. If you need
it just for that you are better off getting a shareware Bible on floppy
disk. There some excellent study Bibles on CD-ROM. Some include several
versions of the Bible, study guides, decent search engines and even
parallel display of different version. World Library publishes several
collections of books on CD-ROM and they all include a King James Bibles and
several other religious works. They have decent search engines and their
cheapest with 150 books lists for $49.95.
Bruce,
I haven't heard of World Library. Do you have any vendors you prefer for
them ?
This particular CD-ROM is carried by Egghead. Note the other religious
books are not other versions of the Bible, but include the Koran, Analects
of Confucious, etc. My favorite vendor is the one that will sell it to me
the cheapest. This is usually at swap meets.
Bruce: Who does GIF's Galore? Thanks, sc
GIF's Galore is published by Walnut Creek CDROM, (800)786-9907 or
(510)947-5996 voice, (510)947-1644 FAX.
Hi Jan, Here are my best and worst:
Best: (Not necessarily in this order)
Comptons Encylopedia (9)
Library of the Future (9) – 2nd Edition: (over 950 literary works on 1
CD)
PC-SIG GAMES (10) – (Includes Wolfenstein 3D, Commander Keen, and others)
Audubons Birds/Mammals (8) – The graphics are great. Could use more
sound
Worst:
CIA World Factbook* (1) – Not enough substance for the price. You can
get
much of the same information in an atlas or encyclopedia. The
info is in a text format that disallows any comparisons of facts.
Software Toolworks Atlas (3) – It might be better if the maps would allow
greater detail.
My opinions & ratings of other CD-ROM DISCS I OWN:
DEATHSTAR ARCADE BATTLES (6) – Good shareware value for the $20 price.
TOO MANY TYPEFONTS (6) – Same as above
CLIPART GOLIATH (4) – Some good clipart, some bad clipart. The editors
were lazy and left in alot of junk and low resolution images.
Still, it's better than searching for clipart on-line.
MICROSOFT BOOKSHELF (8) – Good reference tool
PHONEDISC USA (2) – The information is dated and many
addresses are missing.
FAMILY DOCTOR (7) – Good reference tool.
SONY LANGUAGES OF THE WORLD (3) – It is a fine reference tool, but it
is only a dictionary that does word-by-word translations. A
better application would be a complete document translation
program on CD-ROM.. I'd rather have "German document in…
English document out."
* You might remember that I wrote a review for you about the CIA World
Factbook… The more exposure I get to other CD offerings, the less I like
The world Factbook.
My best so far –
Danger! Hot Stuff.
Worst – unquestionably- "Mammals" no wonder they gave it away free with
the drive – it only runs with the manufacturer's hardware (IBM/MS mouse for
example)
Rated High:
Buckmaster Radio Amateur Callbook (includes over 1,500 applications too)
Street Atlas USA
Audubon's Birds & Mammals (2 CD set)
Rated Low:
Book of Lists #3 (the lists are 11 years old)
The most megabytes for the buck definitely does to Buckmaster!
This morning I unwrapped a copy of Beethoven's Ninth and I will add that to
my list of the best (even if I haven't made it work through the
soundblaster yet and can only use it through the headphone jack) I think I
read every page of it and will again! I hope there will be a lot more of
that type. I think a little more of showing the score as it played would be
nice though.
BTW, neither Soundblaster nor Microsoft really address making the midi work
to any extent. The readme file on the cd-rom says to re-name midimap.cfg to
midimap.win and re-name midimap.old midimap.cfg. For some reason I am not
generating a midimap.old. I reinstalled both the Soundblaster stuff and the
cd-rom stuff without any improvement. Anybody who has crossed this bridge
before please respond!
Try running control panel drivers add midimapper. Add SB 1.5. Then make
sure the MidiMapper icon in control panel is setup for ADLIB. That did the
trick for me. Hope it works for you.
Why THANK YOU.
(no reation, however, that I know of)
The Multimedia Beethoven is great for someone like me who knows nothing
about music theory and is happy to learn. I've been humming the ninth
symphony all day!
From my limited CD library–would vote for the following:
Mega Movie Guide (for DOS) Would have bought Microsoft Cinemania but it's
for Windows Only. Is there a DOS version?
Toolworks Reference Lib. Timetables of History
The best
MS Beethoven's 9th (10)
MS Word/Bookshelf (10)
Corel Draw 3.0 CD-ROM (10)
New Grolier MM Encyclopedia (8)
The Worst
Mavis Beacon Teaches typing (5)
Great Wonders of the World (5)
Where in the World Carmen Sandiago (5)
Guiness Book of World records 1992 (5)
Forgot, here's a few more
Computer Select 4 much too expensive and silly LAN licence
still used regularly, C'mon Ziff get real
on pricing and sell zillions more
Novell Prof Support 4 the only way to support Netware and stay
sane
Microsoft Publisher 5 Pagemaker for 90% of the world
Compaq Support CD 4 good graphics and always with the esoteric
tech details on Compaq
Compaq ProSignia Demo 3 best product release on CDROM yet
NEC FG Demo 3 great his res graphics to push FG series
NEC titles for DTP 2 clipart is ok but low res on PCL5, forget
the pictures, locking is silly – I
mean who needs more drivers in your
config.sys file
Compton's 1 too old tech
World Book on CDROM -2 c'mon guys, let's have some MultiMedia
Hi Jan,
Don't have a best/worst list for you, but I was planning on posting a short
review of "Berlitz Think And Talk – Spanish" cd-rom I just got.
Have just tried it briefly but it seems pretty slick. About 8 cd-rom disks
for $ 125 mail order, the first disk is programs/dictionary and the rest
are lessons, 60 in all. Each lesson presents on-screen illustrations with
accompmanying dialogue through headphones/speakers. Best part – no
English-Spanish translation – you infer what is being said from the
illustrations. The method is to listen to the dialogue several times, then
proceed to pronunciation, reading, writing and other exercises. This is
supposed to model learning the language as you would if you were a child
first learning to speak.
BTW, the product is made by HyperGlot and marketed by Berlitz.
Windows-only.
Regards, S.H.
Stewart,
Hi! Thanks! Would very much appreciate your posting a review of the
Spanish disc set. I had received a complete set from Berlitz and had sent
them out to several people to review. Understand that the discs are great!
I don't think any of the reviews are in yet, but they should be soon. I
will be interested in seeing yours.
BTW, if you not already signed up on our review program (pardon me if you
are the little lady that handles that isn't here right now) we would like
to have you. We will send you a CD-ROM disc of your choice to review. Let
me know if interested.
Rgds
Jan
Jan :
Great idea – maybe this'll turn into a regular pre-Christmas event.
Probably should start a little sooner – give the spouse a chance to react
to my wish list <s>.
CD Carmen [5] Great way to learn, but real tough to install. Inadequate
documentation. Lots of hardware conflicts. Would be nice if it were an MM
application – then you could check on other data sources to find out where
an obscure place is.
MM Beethoven [5] Super music teacher!! Still have a problem with MIDI
settings. Inadequate documentation.
Sierra King's Quest V [5] Great sounds. Good animation, only one problem
(the tailor's needle). Raises the question of how to fix 'bugs' on a CD.
Toolworks World Atlas [4] Needs more detailed maps – roads, towns, etc.
Music playing problems although the voice comes through fine. Suspect a
MIDI problem. Inadequate documentation
Britannica Family Choice [4] Good intro for youngsters to PC learning
games.
Compton's Encyclopedia [4] Almost an MM application. Doesn't use Windows
conventions for cut&paste. Sound problems. Inadequate documentation
Mammals [3] An excellent example of one of the first generation of
multi-media apps. Too bad there hasn't been another release. Inadequate
documentation.
All of the rest in my shoebox (great place to store them <s>) are text
based apps that were promoted as MM apps with my CD bundle (Tiger
Software). I don't use them any more.
Monarch Notes [3]
Guinness Disc of Records [2]
The Family Doctor [2]
US Atlas [1]
World Fact Book [1]
US History [1] Time Almanac [1] Toolworks CD Game Pack [1]
With all of the space on a CD you'd think that you would find complete
troubleshooting documentation – NOPE.
Merry Christmas, and to all a good night.
Gary, let me jump in here if I may. Re: Your text based discs which you no
longer look at.
As chance would have it, I *like* text based programs and am not
particularly wild about games. Perhaps we could work together like Jack
Spratt and his spouse.
I would be particularly interested in all but those on the last line of
your list — US History, Time, Game Pack etc.
I'm at the cottage at the moment, my CD-ROMs are at home so I can't give
you a list of what I could trade but will do if you are interested. I have
a number of discs, game and other that may interest you. For a variety of
reasons I don't sell such things, but I would like to trade them. Cheers!
Jim :
Good to hear from a fellow-swapper. Yes, I'd be interested in a fair
exchange for some of my unused CDs. I'm going to leave this on the public
thread for a while longer. Maybe we'll start a swap meet <g>. The text
based CDs tend to reference a larger base of info (I guess they're focused
on content, not presentation). But, once you pick a standard, you should
support it. Otherwise, it'll never get rolling. So MPC is a standard that
I'm going to support.
Now, if I can only get MMBeethoven to recongnize my CD player and MIDI
player at the same time.
Regards, Gary
Gary, in the spirit in which you feel (correctly, I believe) that this
should stay in the public forum so we can see what develops, I am including
some disks which I know you have.
To swap: The Manhole, "A fantasy exploration for children of all ages."
The Collector's Edition, Access Games — includes World
Class Leaderboard with Famous Courses Volume 1, 2 and 3;
Crime Wave, "Intense arcade action"; Mean Streets, "An
interactive detective movie"; Echelon, "3-D space flight
simulator"
Time Magazine (1991)
Magazine Rack
PC-SIG 9 (shareware)
Business Master and Education Master (both unopened),
collections of appropriate shareware
1st Canadian Shareware Disc (shareware)
Night Owl's 4 and 5 (2 very good shareware discs)
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World Atlas/USA Atlas Pack, Software Toolworks (I have
a couple of these, all are unopened and unused. All have
complete documentation, registration card and Software
Toolwork's uncondition guarantee — if the disc doesn't
work at any time, for any reason, return it for replacement!)
Grolier/Software Toolworks Illustrated Encyclopedia (these
are odd discs, again I have a couple. They are Grolier
encyclopedias of course — Grolier and Software Toolworks
have what they call "an alliance" — and these versions
have sound and graphics. BUT the driver I was given by
one of the largest CD-ROM vendors in Canada does not
access them — so for most people these discs would only
give the text.
All for TRADE only. Sorry I'm not interested in getting into the sales
arena.
On a scale of 1 (worst) to 5 (best):
(Hidden Gem, from Canada). Coreldraw world contest winners (on scale of 1
to 5, this disk is a 10!!!!). Comes with two glossy coffee-table books of
the worlds greatest corel-draw drawings. Spectacular professional artwork,
you won't believe it's corel draw! The CD includes every drawing in the
two books. If you want to see some of the best computer artwork from 1990
and 1991 (one year for each book), send me E-mail and I'll dig out the
address to get this spectacular CD-ROM collection. You need Corel Draw for
Windows, 2.0 or 3.0
PC-SIG #10 Earns a 5. I never download utilities anymore. Doesn't
contain wolfenstein, though. Printed 9/91
Family Doctor. 4, if you think you need it. My fiance unfortunately has
rhumatoid arthritis, and this CD contains great info on almost any
prescription drug on the market (among other useful info). very current,
copyright 1991/1992
Coreldraw 3.0 5 This disc contains more clipart than you'd want to stick
in a year of newsletters.
So Much Shareware 3 Not as useful as PC-SIG #10, and cheesy interface.
Bibles and Religion (Shareware collection by Chestnut). 3 Not as useful
as I expected, better off getting Bible Library, IMHO.
Dictionaries and Language (Chestnut Shareware collection). 2 I found only
one program on this disk worth the registration price.
Jan, I'm intrigued. Let me know where I can order those CorelDraw CD's
…Brian
These CD-ROM disks are direct from COREL Systems Corp. They are without
question the greatest collection of computer artwork you can find for the
common PC. If you can run Corel Draw, and own a CD-ROM, these two disks
will offer endless fascination for you. Systems Corporation 1600 Carling
Avenue Ottawa, Ontario Canada K1Z8R7
Tel: 613-728-8200 FAX: 613-728-2891
Ask for "Corel Artshow". The two I have are titled "Corel Artshow" and
Corel Artshow 3", copywrite 1991 and 1992, respectively. I payed approx.
$40 for both books. The coffee-table size books include the CD-ROM. WOW!
Brian,
I think you intended to respond to Mr. Eric P. Rose's message (71221,2660).
CorelDraw CD's are great, but I'll let Eric tell you where to get them.
Rgds
Jan
Good idea! We've only got two, but we love the Microsoft bookshelf and
hate Composer Quest from Mr. T. software. It's written in toolbook, runs
slowly, and crashes when you play the game.
I'd be happy to write some reviews for you–I'm a professional writer as
well as a computer junkie.