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#Mac/NEC 74 Driver prob

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#34870From: Tony GildingDec 25, 1992 8:03 AM
I have just spent a very frustrating 5 hours hooking up my new Christmas present NEC CDR-74 to my Apple Powerbook much to my wifes disgust. After a few hundred restarts it appears NEC driver hates any extensions beside its own. What really bamboozled me was that even Now utils startup manager crashes it. Finally got it working by removing all extensions from system. Problem extends to extensions loading after driver (even Quicktime, DD and Auto Doubler). Can this be the best I can expect or is there a later driver? Mine is 2.24 BTW I expected to need to terminate device but it nly works unterminated. At the moment its a very expensive toy. When it works its fantastic. Any hints gratefully received.
#34875From: Albert DayesDec 25, 1992 10:08 AM
NEC has a BBS with all the new drivers on it. I don't know the number but if you download the file CDROMF.ZIP (which is another frequently asked questions) file it has a list of BBSes with phone numbers.
#34913From: Tony GildingDec 26, 1992 5:52 AM
Thanks I downloaded CDROMF.ZIP but I don't know how to unstuff it. Where do I find the unstuffer? Also a BBS in the USA may be a bit costly to access here from Australia. I'm a deperate man though so I'll try. Thanks for your help.Nothing worse than a Christmas present that doesn't work and all local support on Hols for a week.
#34964From: Albert DayesDec 26, 1992 8:04 PM
Tony, I hope you have a PC since you need to unzip it. You can download it from IBM top ten list of files. (GO IBMNET) If you have a MAC you might check to see if they have anything in their forums. Or maybe other MAC users can jump in and say whether or not their is ZIP on the MAC side.
#34977From: Tony GildingDec 26, 1992 9:11 PM
Thanks I don't have a PC Hopefully someone will tell me how to "unzip" it and if I can read it on a Mac. I'll keep my ears peeled.
#34983From: Bill BrandonDec 26, 1992 10:02 PM
Use the Mac File Finder. With the keyword UNZIP, you get nine different programs listed from one forum or another, each of which has something to do with unzipping text files on the Mac, about half of which will actually do the unzipping. Check out UZ102C.SIT in the MACSYS Utilities Library, for example. Of course, these are all shareware, so do the right thing and pay for what you use. Bill
#35013From: Tony GildingDec 27, 1992 5:40 AM
Thanks for the advice on unzipping Ill try that. Does this mean I can now get all the good stuff you IBMers have been hiding to yourselves?
#35239From: Bill BrandonDec 29, 1992 8:21 AM
You can unzip text files to your heart's content, Tony. I don't know what will happen when you try to unzip programs – they will probably unzip ok, but they won't run. TG> you IBMers Gee, I hope you were smiling when you said that. <g> When I was an independent consultant, I learned to use whatever machine(s) the client owned; this tended to make me somewhat eclectic and generic. Bill
#34899From: Trantor SystemsDec 25, 1992 6:27 PM
Try adding JUST the NECCDrvr file to your System Folder. If that works ok, then you will be able to read standard Mac HFS discs. If Foreign File Access and the like won't work, it may be just that you have old versions of them.
#34914From: Tony GildingDec 26, 1992 5:52 AM
<<Try adding JUST the NECCDrvr file to your System Folder. If that works ok, then you will be able to read standard Mac HFS discs.>> Thanks I thought you had the solution it worked for a while and then next time I restarted I'm back to the old problem again. Crashes and bad F line instructions. If it was only consistent I might have a chance. Is driver 2.24 tried and proven? Is there a chance it may have corrupted system and I should reinstall system from scratch? Any more hints gratefully received.Down Under here in Australia we sometimes are a bit behind on info.
#34992From: Al FriedmanDec 26, 1992 11:47 PM
I too have "bad F-line instruction" errors and sometimes the CDR-74 simply doesn't boot. I too, am frustrated as the problem comes and goes with no apparent rhyme or reason. NEC suggests renaming the driver so that it is the first INIT that loads (like adding an 'A" to the beginning of the name). Again, that worked for me sometimes, and then I returned to the same problems. Right now, I'm just trying to get my computer (Mac IIcx) to work reliably with the CDR-74 attached. I'm also fooling with different SCSI cables. My dealer suggested that bad F-line errors commonly come from SCSI chain problems.
#34993From: Al FriedmanDec 27, 1992 12:01 AM
Take a look in the Macintosh Hardware Forum, Section 9: Disks/Storage, under the topic, "CD-ROM Driver role". A long string of messages there discusses problems with the NEC driver, and contains advice to replace the driver with Drive7 from Casablanca Works(?).
#35012From: Tony GildingDec 27, 1992 5:40 AM
Tks for your reply. This is really frustrating. I got the NEC as the new Apple 300 CD-ROM is not avail here (Australia) as an external and dealers have no idea when. Maybe I should have waited. The only fail sure fire way safe I can use the CD_ROM is to use a floppy system 7 HD disk with NEC drivers (it just fits) This seems problem free but it is so slow. Anyway keep me informed if you find the magic cure and I'll do likewise. Its sure nice to know I'm not the only one with a problem When I ring the dealer and he says nobody else has had this problem I will know mine is the first unit he has sold.
#35151From: Casa Blanca WorksDec 28, 1992 1:18 PM
Tony, You may want to try Drive7. We suport that NEC74 quite well. In fact, we use one here. Drive7 comes with Drive7rem, which is our removable driver. It supports a number of CD (not all), as well as Syquest, Bernmoulli, and most opticals. We are the publishers, here in the US. Our number is 415.461.2227. (Fax is 415.461.2249) Feel free to call/fax any questions. Conexus distributes for us the Australia. Good luck! John Catalano Casa Blanca Works, Inc. P. S. I hope you wife is feeling better now! 🙂