#DownloadHELP!
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Hi there chris, Nope you don't know me, I was reading one of your replies to
some guys help call, he had download problems. You advised him to switch to
8-N-1, WHY? if you switch to anything but 7-N-1 all you get is garbage, its
like double dutch, I too have been unable to get a reliable download, I have
the Protocols but not the Compuserve B Library. Do you know where I can find it
or any other working system.
P.S. I've tried X and Y modem without ANY success, I found the LIBs on a Fred
Fish disk (could they be too old versions Maybe)
Thanx for any and all help (even for reading this junk!) Paul Tyler
Soaring for the sky in PaRaDiSe * Motorola 68040 InSiDe * :^)=
I spent some time fiddling about trying to get Downloads to work. I found
that 8-N-1 produces rubbish during normal use but was essential during the
download. I managed to download into NComm by switching to 8-N-1
immediatly after starting the download, then back to 7-E-1 when it
finished. X-Modem is very slow, Y-Modem is better.
If you've got WB 2.04 or higher, enough RAM and disc space, Autopilot is
definitly the answer. It comes with Compuserve B and you don't have to do
any fiddling with data formats, it just works !
You have to use 8-N-1, or you won't be able to download. If you get
garbage when you first log in, type your user number in anyway, and they
system will recognize what's going on and correct they problem. From
there you can go to any forum and download away.
Steve
Paul,
I don't have the definitive explanation as to why you must use 8-N-1 and not
7-N-1 or 7-E-1. The gibberish you see will go away, just continue the login
sequence with the correct responses. The system will adjust and by the time the
Password: prompt appears it will be legible.
Binary downloads require 8-N-1. ASCII needs the 8th bit to be stripped. Some
term programs can do this by setting a feature of the program ON. Look in all
the menu options for setting up your particular program. Somewhere there may be
a selection to "strip the 8th bit".
Other programs like Backtalk do it automatically it seems. A version of Procomm
I use at work on a clone doesn't strip it. I see gibberish each time I log on
with it but that doesn't stop me from using it. That particular program has a
auto-script writing feature that I turned on during one such gibberish logon.
Now I use the script each time and it responds to the gibberish prompts with
its own gibberish that the system accepts. Once it reaches the password that
prompt is readable, I manually type it in and from then on all is fine.
Look in Lib 5 of this forum for the xprbplus.library. Try using the search
parameters:
bro/lib:all/key:XPR*
Hope you find this useful,
Chris
Paul,
I checked for you and the file is in LIB 5 of this forum. Use the search string
of Lib 5 ! bro/key:bplus
[100021,2621] Lib: 5
XPRBPL.LHA/Bin Bytes: 15651, Count: 610, 25-May-92(10-Jun-92)
Title : XPRBPlus.library Version 1.1
Keywords: PROTOCOL XPR B BPLUS QUICKB LIBRARY
XPRBPlus.library is an Amiga shared library for use with terminal
programs which support the XPR standard such as Term, VLT and Backtalk.
Its purpose is to provided the improved facilities of the B+ Protocol.
This version implements the 'File Information' facility which allows
file sizes and hence estimated download times to be displayed, together
with 'Download Resume' which allows partial file transfers to be
completed after an abort.
Chris
7-e-1 is essential for text communications with CIS, BUT transfers
(downloads/uploads) must occur at 8-n-1. The advice you were given is
correct. If you continue to log on, the host will read your terminal
preferences (GO TERMINAL) and switch you to 7-e-1. Once a transfer
is started your software settings will again be in effect (8n1).
There is an easier way. If you download a term program that switches
you "on the fly" you may set it up for 7e1 and leave it. Terminus is
one program that I use (with B+ and Quick B protocols) it switches
on the fly. The other is AutoPiolt. Both are available online, the
b+ and QB protocols are also available in the AmigaUser forum I
think.
Hope this helps
P.S. I prefer B+ protocol. It is slightly slower than QB, but with terminus it
gives you a percentage status bar. A nice touch.
Eric
Eric,
I have never used 7-E-1 with CIS. 8-N-1 is required for binary transfers. CIS
has always worked for me, even when logging on using a program that doens't
strip the high bit. After the initial login sequence the garbage is gone.
7-E-1 is not "essential" for CIS use.
Chris
8n1 is required for transfers, as stated in my first sentance. The CIS host is
set for 7e1. The reason logging on makes the messages legible is the host
reads your Permanent Settings in GO TERMINAL. A nice trick to get around the
garbage at login is to put a + and return. This flips you over to 8n1. This
will make to host name, user id and password legible. I still contend that it
is easier for the software to flip for you. There are shareware programs
online that will do this. I still use NComm for my normal bbs'ing, but not for
my CIS usage. Computers are machines. Machines adapt to me, I don't adapt to
machines. If the software doesn't do what I want I find another that will.
Eric