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#3D Studio Applied Book!!

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#70611From: Jim LammersDec 9, 1993 4:58 PM
Hello, Nancy – Saw some of your articles in Cadalyst (I think) and tracked down how to order your book. I wish Advanstar would promote it a bit more. The guy who wrote a similar book (about advanced modeling techniques) sent everyone on this forum a post about it – you may want to do the same). My order has been on back order for some time now… really looking forward to your book and CD! Jim anyway, I'm really looking forward to seeing it
#70803From: Nancy Fulton, OpenCADDec 10, 1993 4:18 PM
Dear Jim: Yeah – sorry for the wait. This is what happens when promotion anticipates delivery. I started talking about it around Siggraph – but it takes a while to get a book out the door (six weeks to write, two weeks to edit, blue lines, CDs and so forth). It really should be shipping to you directly. As for Advanstar promoting, they do a good job. The problem is, until the book is on the shelves one doesn't want to go too crazy with promotion. Irritates people, who want it NOW, not in a few days or weeks. I hope you like it.
#71016From: Andrew WeinsteinDec 12, 1993 12:47 PM
I just started learning 3DS; a true novice. If your book would not be too advanced for the likes of me, how does one go about ordering it? Lost in the mesh,
#71250From: Nancy Fulton, OpenCADDec 13, 1993 7:09 PM
Dear Andrew: I think the book will meet your needs, and I don't think it will be too advanced. But, REMEMBER – the tutorials in the 3D Studio manuals are award winning. So while you wait – go through them. They are short, concise and illustrate important principles very clearly. My book provides 'application specific' tutorials – longer and more complex. They will jump start productivity and show you methodologies for whole projects. The tutorials also allow me to point out tips and tricks in context. The tutorials are also progressive – easier to harder (generally – although Mr. Spider is Tutorial 3 so we don't stay easy too long). As you require more advanced techniques for specific operations, you should look at 3D Studio Tips and Tricks (Greg Pyros can help you with that), and there is a book coming out (in January?) called Inside 3D Studio which merits your attention (it will be a 1000 pages and come with a CD Rom). It is written by some very cool people. I hope this answers your questions. n.
#71344From: Steven ElliottDec 14, 1993 9:31 AM
Nancy, From one cool person to another, thanks for the plug on the Inside 3D Studio book. I'm sure that both of our books will find a useful place on most 3D Studio users shelves. My co-authors and I are knocking ourselves out to meet that January publication deadline. I have to wipe the blood off of my keyboard, rewrap my finger stumps and get back to writing now. Tech editors are such cruel people <G> Thanks, Steven
#71395From: Dec 14, 1993 12:12 PM
Steven: Yes, I especially liked Nancy's reference to us 'cool people' also. It was enough to make me stay up a few more hours last night writing! Greg Pyros [Pyros Partnership, Inc] 14-Dec-93 at 9:42a PST
#71727From: Nancy Fulton, OpenCADDec 15, 1993 6:38 PM
Dear Greg: You Sleep? Stop it right now. No WONDER its taking you so long to finish that 1000 page book. You keep SLEEPing. I hope the REST of you writers aren't making that mistake….. <g> n.
#71748From: Chris JohnstonDec 15, 1993 9:30 PM
I got plenty of time to sleep while I was waiting for an ad for **my** (non-animation) book to show up. I'm still pretty sleepy! <g> Chris
#71762From: Michele BousquetDec 15, 1993 10:33 PM
SLEEP? What's that? That's in the same category as a SOCIAL LIFE, filed under "What you will never see again if you decide to write a 3DS book". Thank god for Cserve, otherwise I'd never get out of the house. <g> Michele PS Thanks for the Tips and Tricks series plug, even if I didn't make the 'cool people' list… <g>
#72175From: GARRY HARGREAVESDec 17, 1993 3:48 PM
<MB> even if I didn't make the 'cool people' list… I think we should make Nancy post the `cool people' list!! CU GH (bet Kate is on top)
#72443From: Michele BousquetDec 19, 1993 5:20 AM
We don't NEED Nancy's cool people list. We have our OWN. Let's see: me, you, Glenn, um, um, yeah. Michele (it's more distinctive to be on a SHORT cool people list)
#72447From: GARRY HARGREAVESDec 19, 1993 6:23 AM
Yeah, OK..but I don't think Glenn cares if he's on anyone list! PS Have you checked my MultiMedia disk yet?….No!….What do you do with all your time.. gh
#72376From: Nancy Fulton, OpenCADDec 18, 1993 2:53 PM
Of course you make the cool people list , , , Are you not on Cis, in the asoft forum????? n
#71426From: James TichenorDec 14, 1993 1:57 PM
Hello Steven, All this book talk has got me wondering. I had ordered a book earlier in the year for 3DS and found it too easy. I'm looking for a book that gets away from procedures that are covered in the Tutorials and Ref Man. I was wondering whether your book is considered a starter or an advanced? Do you go into nitty gritty details? I really want to find out how 3DS works ("Inside 3D Studio" _sounds_ like it's what I'm looking for). How does the renderer work? How are shadows calculated? Not the mathimatical equations, but just a detailed theoretical evaluation. Does you book cover this stuff? And more? If so, put me in line for a copy – I'll buy it the minute you have it available. James
#71515From: Steven ElliottDec 14, 1993 11:01 PM
James, First let me return the favor to Nancy and say that her book is out now and is definitely worth a look. Her book is tutorial based with specific, real-world project examples. Right Nancy? Our book is concept and technique based and uses short exercises and examples to illustrate specific techniques. We also assume that you have worked through both the Reference Manual and Tutorials that ship with 3D Studio. We are making a strong effort to avoid rehashing anything already covered in the manuals. Philip Miller and I are the primary authors with major contributions from Greg Pyros, John Slater and others. New Riders Publishing is the publisher and we're shooting for a ship date near the end of January. The working outline breaks down into into the following multiple chapter sections: Concepts and Theory, Basic Modeling, Advanced Modeling, Basic Animation, Advanced Animation, and an expansive appendix on hardware and the multimedia profession. And Yes, we do get into the nitty gritty. How about optimizing model efficiency, back-tracking lofter paths, neon lighting effects, camera perspective control, rotoscoped materials, video post techniques, frame accurate recording and network rendering? To name a few. I'd better get back to work before my co-authors start beating on me for spilling secrets and wasting time. I have a lot to write, a short time to write it in, and I'm down to one knuckle per finger. Steven
#71637From: James TichenorDec 15, 1993 1:00 PM
This book sounds great! I should wouldn't mind getting some paper or e-mail once it's released. Or just info so I can get my local bookstore to order it for me… James
#71826From: Steven ElliottDec 16, 1993 9:17 AM
If I survive the writing debacle I'm sure we'll be posting notices. Thanks for your interest, Steven
#71723From: Nancy Fulton, OpenCADDec 15, 1993 6:37 PM
Dear Steven: I haven't seen your book, or even heard its orientation, so I don't know if we compete (after all, a thesaurus and a dictionary both cover words, but they don't compete, now do they…). And even if they did – On Compuserve I'm not just an author, I'm a professional. Professionals always point out the alternatives available… Sides, as I told Phil – I <like> all the Inside 3D Studio writers…. n.
#71786From: Dec 16, 1993 12:15 AM
Nancy: >> as I told Phil – I <like> all the Inside 3D Studio writers… And we like all the "3D Studio Applied" writers, too! <g> Greg Pyros [Pyros Partnership, Inc] 15-Dec-93 at 9:31p PST
#71485From: Pierre JeanDec 14, 1993 7:57 PM
Sorry, I'm lost … Is your book available and where can I made my order! Thanks Pierre
#71726From: Nancy Fulton, OpenCADDec 15, 1993 6:38 PM
Dear Pierre – I posted another message under this header that SHOULD answer your questions…. If it doesn't give me a call. n.
#71743From: GREG PHILLIPSDec 15, 1993 8:58 PM
Soon there will be 2 new books from New Riders Publishing on 3D Studio and special effects both of these books will be a plus for many 3DS users. X-man