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#115768From: Robert B. SlobinsDec 26, 1993 5:42 PM
Hi, I am a new member to the forum. I and a Friend of mine, George Drakulic collect and trade North Carolina mineralogical specimens. We have excel- lent quality quartz, kyanite good for systematic collections, fossils from Aurora (Pleistocene-Eocene marine fossils), garnets, amethyst, corundum, a small quantity of Crabtree emeralds (Spruce Pine mining district), hyalite opal (fluorescent), epidote with albite. We prefer to trade for European and world-wide specimens to enlarge our collections. We could also sell outright. Please enquire to me via E-mail or call 910-292-3444.
#115783From: Michael SternbergDec 26, 1993 10:15 PM
Robert – and George, welcome to the Forum! We certainly welcome and appreciate trading offers. In fact, there are several trading lists posted in the Library see LIB 12. I personally do not have any trading material at the present. I live in Washington state, but haven't yet collected at Spruce Ridge for fine pyrite on quartz, or in Columbia basalts for rare zeolites. I tend to focus on Eocene-Miocene fossils in the nearby area. Eocene and younger plant fossils many gastropods from Oligocene to Miocene. So far no Pleistocene vertebrate fossils in peat bogs or gravels. We have an informal conference coming up January 9th and a practice session just a few days before. I am jealous of your collecting locale. North Carolina has amazing diversity. Michael
#115953From: SyndesisDec 29, 1993 12:37 PM
One of your references for Wisconsin fossils mentioned Pleistocene vertebrate fossils in gravels… what sort of collecting location does this imply? Your reference mentioned Vilas county, an extreme northern county in WI, almost Upper Michigan. This area is more mountainous than southern WI, which shows much more effect of glaciation. I'm accustomed to glacial gravel mounds. How might Pleistocene gravels be arranged in relation to other geological features?
#116064From: Michael SternbergDec 30, 1993 11:07 PM
I am most familiar with the pleistocene and more recent holocene gravels here in Washington. Whether my experience is applicable to Wisconsin exposures is problematic. I have not found any vertebrate fossils in this state. With that disclaimer made…… I keep a close watch on local roadcuts through glacial tills and gravels, and occasionally traipse through local gravel pits looking for teeth and heavier bones. There have been local reports of mastodon and horse teeth being found but no clearcut hotspot. Given the published reports, I presume that the productive gravels in WI are stream deposits vs glacial till. Since most bone beds represent herd drownings with subsequent deposition of bones on sand or gravel beds. The remains are rarely articulated, rather existing as a hodgepodge of bones from many separate individuals. Consider the mechanics of hydraulic transport of bones as similar to the tranport of gemstones and heavy metals. They are found where stream velocities slow enough to drop out the heavier materials while still carrying the lighter sands and silts. With this in mind, one has to survey and prospect for bones in gravel much in the same manner as prospecting for gold. Look for gravel benches above dry stream beds (or wet ones as well). Watch the deposits for crossbedding ( a potential sign of gravel or sand bars from the past ). As for the Vilas location, if in mountainous terrain, look for exposures above the floor of streams or creeks. They started at a higher elevation than they are today. Watch the scree slopes of high clay or sandy gravel cliffs or slopes for weathered out material. If any is found (watch for woody or plant materials too), examine closer upslope, upvalley. If you find anything, I hope it was because of these wonderful hints. Happy New Year ! Michael
#116080From: SyndesisDec 31, 1993 8:48 AM
Although it's very flat around here, there have been finds of giant beaver bones, mastodon bones and teeth in this county, in bogs and farmer's fields. Eventually, I'll track down the field workers at the university who retrieved large beaver bone from a farm about six miles from here.
#115854From: Doug MitchellDec 27, 1993 10:14 PM
Hi, Robert– Welcome to the forum! I am particularly interested in fluorescent minerals – I wonder if you have checked your specimens with UV? My trading list is LISTDM.TXT in the forum library – I figure to upload a slightly updated version in the next few days. –Doug
#116161From: Robert B. SlobinsJan 1, 1994 5:56 PM
George has a major collection of radioactive material in. For fluorescent material, he has Torbernite from Spruce Pine. There is also Autunite in crystal plate, Meta Torbernite (green crystals on feldspar), gummite, and so forth. We can also get Hyalite opal from the same locality; I may have a piece in my closet. THe Hyalite and torbernite glows bright green. I go to Franklin, NJ. I used to live in NJ and worked out some of my ill feelings from living around NYC on the flourescent mineral dumps. Buck- wheat dump is maintained by the mineral museum and the local Kiwanis Club. I understand rockhounds have access to the Sterling mine. I have several boxes of material in storage in NJ.
#116017From: Nathan A. SchachtmanDec 30, 1993 9:10 AM
Robert, Welcome to the forum. I am also a very amateur mineral collector. I live in Haddon Heights, New Jersey, which is 1) close to Edmund's scientific factory store, and 2) close to some of the classic mineral localities in Southeastern Pennsylvania (French Creek pyrite, Phoenixville pyromorphite, etc.). My sons and I occasionally go up to Franklin, NJ, to collect fluorescent specimens, or to Paterson or Millington, NJ, to collect zeolites, apophyllites, prehnites, datolites, etc. In the summer, we have vacationed in the Bancroft area, where we collect radioactives and REE minerals. As you can see, my collecting is diverse. I'm not terribly computer literate, but some of the correspondents here have been helping me into the next century. I have collected in Amelia and once in NC, but lacked enough time to bag anything exciting. I'd be interested in seeing you post your trading list. Let me know whether I have hit on any species of interest to you and George Drakulic. Cheers. Nathan
#116162From: Robert B. SlobinsJan 1, 1994 5:58 PM
George has got hold of an old-time NC mineral collection, some stuff has been from played-out localities. Let us know your needs.