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#What VTR Hardware???

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#140060From: Phil CrescenzoDec 6, 1994 9:26 AM
What is the least expensive way to go for a VTR controller. I know that the V-Lan stuff isn't cheap. Is there any other way?. Perhaps a software only?? I have a Panasonic AG7750. Thankns in advance.
#140064From: Jonas Ruikis [ADESK]Dec 6, 1994 9:43 AM
Hi Phil, << ..inexpensive method of recording to a VCR?.. >> File Info for BOARDS.ZIP Section: Index and Info Contributor: 73172,1351 Size: 12132 Submitted: 7/12/94 Type: Binary Accesses: 156 Title: MAX/PAR/other Debate Keys: MAX PAR VIDEO BOARD DEBATE A PreSiggraph 94 thread debating the merits of the MAX/PAR and alternatives. [download time at 2400 baud: 1 min]
#140268From: MARTIN G FOSTERDec 7, 1994 12:49 AM
Phil, >> What is the least expensive way to go for a VTR controller. << if you have a framebuffer already (targa+, vista, or Illuminator Pro) then the cheapest controller would probably be SoftVTR. I'm not sure how much it costs. If you don't have the framebuffer then consider the DPS Personal Animation Recorder for use with your vtr.
#140359From: Paul Sanford [LVL5]Dec 7, 1994 10:09 AM
The SoftVTR lists for $995.00. Paul S.
#140400From: MARTIN G FOSTERDec 7, 1994 11:20 AM
Paul, >> The SoftVTR lists for $995.00. << don't they bundle a free copy of Topas with it for that price now? <G>.
#140362From: Phil CrescenzoDec 7, 1994 10:13 AM
Martin .. I believe we have the Video Blaster or something. It is my intention to get a Targa board. I have access to some older Targa 64's and Targa 16s … I am wondering if they will work OK…
#140402From: MARTIN G FOSTERDec 7, 1994 11:21 AM
Phil, >> to get a Targa board. I have access to some older Targa 64's << It would work with a targa "classic", but no chance with the Videoblaster.
#140517From: Phil CrescenzoDec 7, 1994 6:33 PM
Targa Classic? Is that a 16 or a 64 ( i guess its a Targa plus)? Do you mean that we cannot output to Video tape with the VB? Or do you mean that it just won't look good? ( 3D Studio and the PC are at my office. I assume that they are using the VB. )
#140562From: MARTIN G FOSTERDec 7, 1994 11:45 PM
Phil, the videoblaster is not a serious framebuffer for frame accurate output.
#140629From: Phil CrescenzoDec 8, 1994 10:39 AM
When you say 'Frame accurate'…. with respect to this frame buffer.. I mean are we talkin' color…, registration, …..???
#140640From: MARTIN G FOSTERDec 8, 1994 11:41 AM
Phil, >> I mean are we talkin' color…, registration, …..??? << No, that's not what I meant. You'll just have to trust me here…you need a framebuffer card to hold the image and a videoblaster doesn't qualify for frame-by-frame recording. You might read some book(s) on the subject. A great one is "Inside 3d Studio" which goes into great length on methods of outputting to tape.
#140865From: Phil CrescenzoDec 9, 1994 12:51 PM
Martin.. I didn't mean to imply that I had no knowledge of framebuffer cards. In fact… I developed a motion analysis system for the film Alien III that used a Targa 64, a Sony Laser Disc Recorder etc etc. I wrote an entire application around the Targa. I was just looking for a more in depth description of the problems with a video blaster. Thanks anyway. PS.. I have Inside 3D Studio… great book.
#140978From: MARTIN G FOSTERDec 10, 1994 1:20 AM
Phil, >> I developed a motion analysis system for the film Alien III that used a Targa 64, a Sony Laser Disc Recorder etc etc. I wrote an entire application around the Targa. << considering your excellent credentials, I'm surprised you are asking about the Videoblaster which I believe to be a low end video-for-windows type capture card mainly designed for making low resolution .avi files to run in Windows. If that's your application then it might work. I looked at a few of these type cards to see if they had what it took to capture/playback high-quality video and none of them came close. Instead I bought a DPS PAR (Personal Animation Recorder), the optional capture board (TBCiv) and a special, dedicated 1gb hardrive. For around $3000 this setup allows me to capture and playback video and animations at 752×480 60 fields per second and output to composite, s-video, and component (betaSP or MII). It's a great device and the cheapest of it's kind.
#141020From: Phil CrescenzoDec 10, 1994 11:25 AM
Understood… If you remember.. this started when you said that the VB wasn't 'frame accurate'. Problem is.. these guys here already had the video blaster before. I haven't even looked at the card or any data on it. To me.. anything with the word 'BLASTER' in it probably isn't a pro product! The PAR seems to be the preferred device. I am also looking at the Soft Vtr / Targa combo. Any thoughts on that? I really don't go for the dedicated drive thing although my DAWs are like that. I mean a 1Gig IDE can be had for about $400 (caviar). I have a bunch here and a SCSI 1 gigs. How fast does PARs drive have to be?
#140418From: Dec 7, 1994 12:24 PM
Phil: >> I have access to some older Targa 64's and Targa 16s … I am wondering >> if they will work OK. They will work fine, the Targa 64 much better, though, the Targa 16 was only 16 bits deep, it may show some banding. If you have access to both, go for the 64! Greg Pyros
#140518From: Phil CrescenzoDec 7, 1994 6:34 PM
THANKS!! I will try to get the 64!!
#140470From: Erik GreenDec 7, 1994 3:38 PM
I just happen to have SoftVTR and a Visionetics VIGA +64 I am trying to sell. E-mail me for a very reasonable price quote.
#140620From: bill "digr" lundeenDec 8, 1994 10:02 AM
Hi, I have used both Drastic Technologies Animation Commander, and Diaquests' DQ422+. cost 495 and 2k respectively. Bill
#140925From: Phil CrescenzoDec 9, 1994 5:00 PM
Thanks bill!!