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#CEI/CBM as 11/28

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#176844From: Dan RoeslerDec 8, 1994 12:05 PM
Please, Henry, give us a break. Become cynical like the rest of us! It's just a natural part of the Amiga culture. 🙂
#176875From: MARTIN SKOWRONSKIDec 8, 1994 1:58 PM
Dan, <<Please, Henry, give us a break. Become cynical like the rest of us! It's just a natural part of the Amiga culture. 🙂 >> I'm sure glad that Jay Miner didn't have this attitude, or we wouldn't have an Amiga culture to be cynical about ;-} -mls ProActive Images Inc. "WE BECOME WHAT WE THINK ABOUT ALL DAY LONG" – RW EMERSON
#177001From: henry tellerDec 8, 1994 11:01 PM
How can I be cynical when CEI is going to start production within the month? You've all had over nine years to be cynical – you should be over by now!! Hank Hank/Videology – Where you get all the P.O.M.P. under all Circumstances
#177052From: Dave Haynie/C128 LandDec 9, 1994 7:11 AM
The problem is reconciling any assets CEI might obtain with their loss of the remaining engineer base. Particularly in light of the fact that even their reduced bid with that in mind might take >30 days to see approval. –JFW
#177073From: brad HansenDec 9, 1994 2:21 PM
I have logged into the messae board everyday for the last 5 days at the same time and I have not read one bit of information about what is going on. OK I live in Switzerland so my time zone is different then The USA, but I think the message here are being removed too soon without any consideration for people who might be in different time zones. Now it seems to me somthing has happened with CEI's bid, but for the life of me I haven't the faintest idea what. Maybe somebody could tell me what time the messages are removed so I could call in before that time and get the latest dope. I'm am very interested in finding out what is happening but all I seem to get are messages that say "A yeah right, I feel that way too". exit
#177155From: Steve AhlstromDec 9, 1994 11:32 PM
Messages are not removed. There is a finite number of active messages and when that limit is met the oldest is dropped off to the bit bucket. This is known as a scroll rate. The current scroll rate in this forum is approximately 1 week. -sja
#177290From: henry tellerDec 10, 1994 9:34 AM
The current story CEI is passing along is that an agreement with the trustees should be signed "any day now" and then CEI will begin the preparations for launching Amiga. CEI is planning on making a speech at VTU Expo in LA next week, and I believe Alex Amor has been invited to attend the forum here Sunday night. BTW, Alex indicated he wanted to have 100+ programmers working by the end of the year. It seems he's still on track. Hank/Videology – Where you get all the P.O.M.P. under all Circumstances
#177300From: Eulogio (DJ) GarciaDec 10, 1994 11:41 AM
Henry, Does Alex "want to", or is he "planning to" have the 100+ engineers working by year-end? Big difference in meaning here. Does he have verbal agreements with these people? Does he know who they might be? Or is he going to start looking as soon as the ink is dry? Just trying to get a better feel for the situation … DJ On AP from Queens, the thrill and excitement of the Big Apple Where Santa's always got a brand new bag …
#177358From: Steve AhlstromDec 10, 1994 8:56 PM
DJ, CEI placed an ad in the Philadelphia Inquirer a couple of months ago looking for software developers and engineers. He did this to get a feel for what type of talent was still available in that area. He got over 1500 resumes.
#177458From: Eulogio (DJ) GarciaDec 11, 1994 3:09 PM
Steve, I take this as a good sign and proper initiative – I hope he's been following up on those resumes. Thanks for the insight. DJ On AP from Queens, the thrill and excitement of the Big Apple Where the ice cream truck plays Helter Skelter …
#177759From: Ron LegroDec 12, 1994 8:30 PM
I'm pulling for CEI but have to wonder how fast non-Amiga-literate engineers and developers could get up to speed, especially given the elapsed time since C= went under.
#177508From: henry tellerDec 11, 1994 5:25 PM
Hopefully we'll all get a better feeling for the situation when he addresses the VTU expo members next week in LA. I saw the coverage of the lastest World of Amiga in England and C=UK said they had signed and put down a deposit. The mystery continues – – Hank/Videology – Where you get all the P.O.M.P. under all Circumstances
#177557From: Michael D BrennanDec 11, 1994 7:47 PM
Is it true that CEI's backers dropped out ? I hope Alex is on line in the conference tonight, some answer's are needed _now_. If the consortium is still together, maybe it's time to _lower_ the offer, just to let the debter's know that the liquidators have dropped the ball one too many times. It was their job to obtain the _highest_ amount for the creditors. I wonder what happens when the delays cost the debters _everything_. I am completely depressed, but not giving up untill Agnus sings. Mike Brennan, Sir Render
#177569From: henry tellerDec 11, 1994 8:32 PM
Maybe I'll get some news next week at VTU Expo. Be back Friday morning. Hank/Videology – Where you get all the P.O.M.P. under all Circumstances
#177933From: Eulogio (DJ) GarciaDec 13, 1994 9:34 PM
Bring back lots of *GOOD* news <g>. DJ On AP from Queens, the thrill and excitement of the Big Apple Where the ice cream truck plays Helter Skelter …
#177574From: Eulogio (DJ) GarciaDec 11, 1994 8:57 PM
"… until Agnus sings" – I never realized Agnus was a lady, but I really hope she never sings. I think that's better left to Paula, anyway … DJ On AP from Queens, the thrill and excitement of the Big Apple Where the ice cream truck plays Helter Skelter …
#177657From: Dale LarsonDec 12, 1994 9:10 AM
You should have seen the animation at Denver DevCon of Fat Agnus. They had her wearing a red and white checked outfit, bouncing up and down off the walls. It all looked vaguely familiar for some reason.
#177929From: Eulogio (DJ) GarciaDec 13, 1994 9:33 PM
Hopefully she wasn't quite spherical. She wasn't singing, was she? That would be a bad sign … DJ On AP from Queens, the thrill and excitement of the Big Apple Where the ice cream truck plays Helter Skelter …
#177729From: Jim SteeleDec 12, 1994 5:04 PM
It's refering to that old saying about opera… "It ain't over till the fat lady sings." Agnus is sometimes called "Fat Agnus"… -Jim master of useless trivia MOS via Autopilot & Amiga
#177931From: Eulogio (DJ) GarciaDec 13, 1994 9:34 PM
Jim, I was aware of the reference. My actual inquiry was towards Fat Agnus' gender. It's hard to tell unless you can get the chip out and look underneath <g>. DJ On AP from Queens, the thrill and excitement of the Big Apple Where the ice cream truck plays Helter Skelter …
#177973From: Steve AhlstromDec 14, 1994 12:26 AM
DJ, Agnus is more than likely like angels, cherubs, and other non-worldly gender challenged (er, non-specific gender) entities. Jay Miner named the chip Agnus (rather than Agnes) in honor to "Agnus, Lamb of God".
#177983From: Robert ComerDec 14, 1994 12:57 AM
>My actual inquiry was towards Fat Agnus' gender. It's hard to tell >unless you can get the chip out and look underneath <g>. LOL! Warp 3 — Engage! Bob Comer Cheyenne, Wyoming U.S.A.
#177573From: Eulogio (DJ) GarciaDec 11, 1994 8:57 PM
Yes, it IS kind of hard to figure out what the hell is going on 🙁 DJ On AP from Queens, the thrill and excitement of the Big Apple Where the ice cream truck plays Helter Skelter …
#177329From: Marlene Zenker/SYSOPDec 10, 1994 1:47 PM
Getting 100+ programmers working before the end of the year will be quite a task, one that I'm not sure is possible unless he already has them lined up.
#177564From: henry tellerDec 11, 1994 8:07 PM
I agree – maybe he was thinking of 1995. Maybe I'll get an answer from him in Los Angeles at the VTU Expo. Hank/Videology – Where you get all the P.O.M.P. under all Circumstances
#177642From: Gabe J. FederDec 12, 1994 5:05 AM
er, that oughta be *RE*launch, I think… –Gabe
#177647From: henry tellerDec 12, 1994 6:00 AM
You're right, although it's been so long, it will feel like the first launch. I keep seeing articles referring to the Toaster as the video system running on the dead Amiga as CBM failed in April '94. Hank/Videology – Where you get all the P.O.M.P. under all Circumstances
#177315From: Dan RoeslerDec 10, 1994 1:24 PM
We'll see if you're cynical in a month when the situation remains the same! And remember, I have an Opalvision, too. I have reason to be cynical!
#177567From: henry tellerDec 11, 1994 8:17 PM
I hope you're willing to become optimistic when the situation does change. Hank/Videology – Where you get all the P.O.M.P. under all Circumstances
#177575From: Eulogio (DJ) GarciaDec 11, 1994 8:57 PM
Hey, *I'm* always willing to become optimistic at the slightest half-believable rumor … DJ On AP from Queens, the thrill and excitement of the Big Apple Where the ice cream truck plays Helter Skelter …
#177648From: henry tellerDec 12, 1994 6:00 AM
Let's hope you have reason *REAL SOON NOW*. Hank/Videology – Where you get all the P.O.M.P. under all Circumstances
#177833From: Dan RoeslerDec 13, 1994 2:15 AM
MORE than willing, believe me. I have defended the Amiga against "clonies" until I was blue in the face. And I still do. After getting a 486 and working with that joke they call Windows, I find myself running back to my good 'ole A3000 to use a real OS. But, without software support and solid marketing, the inferior machines will continue to reign. If and when the situation ACTUALLY changes for the better, I will be back on my soap- box. I'm just sick and tired of being strung-along. This is not being handled professionally. It's as if a bunch of misguided children were in charge of the operation. We need real business leadership backing the Amiga for a change.
#177906From: Wayne SteeleDec 13, 1994 6:03 PM
> We need real business leadership backing the Amiga for a change. AMEN! And oh what a change it would be…
#177934From: Eulogio (DJ) GarciaDec 13, 1994 9:34 PM
Defending clonies until you're BLUE in the face – there's a certain poetry in this B-) DJ On AP from Queens, the thrill and excitement of the Big Apple Where the ice cream truck plays Helter Skelter …