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#3DS / Windows/ Acad 13

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#142064From: Rod EdwardsDec 15, 1994 5:06 PM
Dear Adesk: Have you given any thought to the possibility of bringing 3DStudio into the Win/95 or Win/NT OS's, so it can join the other Adesk products already in Windows? Those of us using AutoCad 12/13, AME, AutoVision..etc. in Windows now would like the "orphan (bastard?<g>) child" to join the rest of the family. I went to an all day presentation yesterday on AutoCad 13, and I was told of this "better" communication being developed between your product family members, but I(we) work in an all Windows environment EXCEPT for 3DStudio 4. If you can render in Acad 13/AutoVision at these speeds why not 3DStudio? Supposedly Win 95 and NT now have all these fancy 3D and Animation utils "built-in" for developers to use. Also, I'd like to add that "Renderize Live" and "AccuRender 2.0"(Which we also use) are in Windows with animation capabilities. Isn't 3DStudio supposed to be the superior software? I want to go to Win 95 and/or Win NT, but what do I do with 3DStudio when they effectly "dump" DOS? —————————————————— Question (1): Will it work in a DOS window under these two OS's? Question (2): If so how bad will I downgrade it's performance in this environment? —————————————————— Rod Edwards Architect,Production Manager
#142074From: Jonas Ruikis [ADESK]Dec 15, 1994 6:22 PM
Hi Rod, << Question (1): Will it work in a DOS window under these two OS's? >> I'm sorry but 3DS will not run under NT. jonas[adesk]
#142310From: Kevin C. GibsonDec 17, 1994 7:08 AM
Hey Jonas, <<< I'm sorry but 3DS will not run under NT. >>> Why? Sorry, can't stop myself, even if I want to…… <smile>
#142582From: Rod EdwardsDec 19, 1994 10:43 AM
Jonas, Re: >>I'm sorry but 3DS will not run under NT.<< Otay! How about Win/95? Heard anything about that environment? Win/95(Chicago) will be the next logical step for us to make, or I should say we presently have plans on going to it when it comes out. Q: Will we be able to run 3DStudio with Win/95 loaded on a PC based on what you presently know, or have been given liberty to say<g>, when it "replaces" DOS? This is CRITICALLY important to me! Rod Edwards…
#142190From: Brian Rudolph [Adesk]Dec 16, 1994 11:27 AM
<<(1): Will it work in a DOS window under these two OS's?>> The currently shipping 3D Studio will not run under NT, and we haven't tested it with Win/95 yet as that product is currently not shipping. Sorry, but Autodesk does not discuss future releases of software or supported operating systems. <<(2): If so how bad will I downgrade it's performance in this environment? >> Well, I guess this question is now "not applicable" -b
#142287From: Rod EdwardsDec 17, 1994 12:13 AM
Re: >>Sorry, but Autodesk does not discuss future releases of software or supported operating systems…. Well, I guess this question is now "not applicable"<< Otay! Then how about this question. Will 3DStudio run under the new OS/2 (Warp) 3.0 upgrade for Windows in a DOS window? That OS is out and on the street. These questions are critical to me since I'm considering changing OS's at our office, and the only real "problem" I have is 3DStudio. Granted there are some unknows about AutoCad 13/Win too under OS/2 3.0, but I'm addressing those questions on the AutoCad Forum right now.
#142547From: Brian Rudolph [Adesk]Dec 19, 1994 9:43 AM
<<Otay! Then how about this question. Will 3DStudio run under the new OS/2 (Warp) 3.0 upgrade for Windows in a DOS window? That OS is out and on the street.>> And the answer is……. ……YES! Download the following file for more info on settings people are using: File Info for 3DSOS2.ZIP Section: HWare/OpSys/Video Contributor: 74010,3076 Size: 2051 Submitted: 12/5/94 Type: Binary Accesses: 89 Title: OS/2 Dos settings for foreground/background 3ds Keys: OS 2 SETTINGS OS/2 Dos settings for foreground and background (slave) sessions of 3ds. Includes forground and background render time. Also includes config.sys for reference. [dl time at 2400 baud: 1 min]
#142605From: Rod EdwardsDec 19, 1994 12:07 PM
Brian, Re: >>And the answer is……. ……YES!<< Great! I'll download the file right now. The file may answer this quetion, but I'll ask it now anyway: Is theperformance of 3DStudio under OS/2 equal in performance to a true DOS session? Is there a performance/speed price to be paid for trying to run under OS/2? Now if only IBM upgrades to Win32 2.0 in OS/2 I'll be able to run Acad 13/WIN in there too. Rod…<:
#142829From: Brian Rudolph [Adesk]Dec 20, 1994 10:40 AM
<,Is theperformance of 3DStudio under OS/2 equal in performance to a true DOS session? >> Sorry, Autodesk does not do benchmark testing. However people here on the forum have stated that OS/2 is at least as fast, maybe a little faster than a DOS OS. It really all depends on what else is loaded into the memory of your system. -Brian
#142905From: Larry MintonDec 20, 1994 5:18 PM
There is about a 10% performance hit when rendering under os/2 vs. dos (i.e., a 300 second render in dos will take about 330 seconds in os/2). LAM
#143068From: Rod EdwardsDec 21, 1994 11:32 AM
Larry, Thanks for the information. Rod…
#142296From: James Coulter[Mindscape]Dec 17, 1994 1:58 AM
FYI: 3D Studio runs fine in an OS/2 DOS Session. — James — MAP —