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#PAR vs. VLAB

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#97149From: henry tellerDec 17, 1994 12:19 PM
Having just read Erik Flom's review of VLAB at VTU, I would agree. Since the system requirements indicated only have the data speed of the Flyer, you know you're getting only half the data (i.e. resolution). Since the VLAB uses MPEG, a compression method not as suitable for video as VTASC, it loses on quality again. Unfortunately, the best sound sync seems to be Sunrize's. Maybe you can still get an AD516 at the sellout noted $99. I think they we're closing it out and, as a previous message indicated, it is still supported with Studio 16. Hank/Videology Where you get all the P.O.M.P. under all circumstances.
#97179From: MICHAEL SMITHDec 17, 1994 7:49 PM
AD516 for $((??? I'll take a hundred! (You mean 1012, right??) and where did you see Eric's review of the VLAB? (I trust Eric, love his last name) Thanks
#97224From: Erik FlomDec 18, 1994 2:43 PM
Let's not blow this out of proportion. I only stated a few short opinions about the product. Since I'm not interested in that level of NLE, I really didn't pay much attention to it. My main conclusion was that it _might_ have looked a little better than S-VHS, but it was hard to tell. (The monitors they were using looked out of adjustment, though it might have been just the video.) BTW, wht's this about my last name? (Do you also have Nordic ancestors? Do _you_ know the difference between lutefisk and lefsa? :^) Keep On Toastin' Erik Flom – ELF Works 3D Construction Co.
#97351From: Vance SchowalterDec 20, 1994 2:36 AM
PMFJIBICR, (pardon me for jumping in but I couldn't resist) > Do you also have Nordic ancestors? Do _you_ know the difference between lutefisk and lefsa? :^) I do! I do! Lutefisk was what the vikings used as a last resort to overwhelm the enemy, and lefsa was used to strengthen their shields if the enemy wisely wore clothes pins on their nosens. *8^) Yah, Yumpin' Yiminy, I love my lefse! Mom made a ton of them for Cristmas. Yum! -= Vance =- Image Master Internet: viking@freenet.edmonton.ab.ca
#97361From: Erik FlomDec 20, 1994 11:35 AM
'lutefisk was … used … to overwhelm the enemy, and lefsa was used to strengthen their shields…' ROTFLOL!! You know, my parents never related that one to me! Thanks! Keep On Toastin' Erik Flom – ELF Works 3D Construction Co.
#97382From: Vance SchowalterDec 20, 1994 4:28 PM
>'lutefisk was … used … to overwhelm the enemy, and lefsa was used to strengthen their shields…' >ROTFLOL!! >You know, my parents never related that one to me! Thanks! My parents didn't either. It was just off the top of my head. But it kinda makes sense, doesn't it? *8^) -= Vance =- Image Master Internet: viking@freenet.edmonton.ab.ca
#97433From: Erik FlomDec 21, 1994 2:14 AM
Personally, _I_ couldn't think of a better use for _those_ two items from my Norwegian past! <G> Keep On Toastin' Erik Flom – ELF Works 3D Construction Co.
#97452From: Vance SchowalterDec 21, 1994 11:32 AM
The following is the fault of my depraved sense of Norwegian humour. Here are some other uses for lefse: * Roofing the house * Patching up old jeans * The original (but deadlier) frisbee * Replacement for airbags in the car. Indestructable, the soft stack of lefse cushions the impact and gives you something to snack on until help arrives. They also give your teeth a real workout. * Bind a few together to make terrific manhole covers. * And I could go on forever, but I want to spare your sanity… And THEN there's lutefisk: * Can turn the average person's tastebuds to stone. Not very useful. * Kids use them in school instead of traditional stink bombs. * Mom disciplines the kids. "Spare the lutefisk and spoil the child." * Hang some outside the front door to keep solicitors away. In fact, it works so well, it keeps everyone away. Useful for loners. * The best anti-terrorist weapon. Used by all major airlines. * And I can go on, but by now, you're almost past hope of recovery… -= Vance =- Image Master Internet: viking@freenet.edmonton.ab.ca
#97544From: Trent K. JohnsonDec 22, 1994 4:02 PM
ROFL! That's some great material! Snark! Trent/ReAnimators
#97543From: Trent K. JohnsonDec 22, 1994 4:02 PM
>>Lutefisk was what the vikings used as a last resort to overwhelm the enemy, and lefsa was used to strengthen their shields if the enemy wisely wore clothes pins on their noses. *8^)<< Gak! You got me with that one while I was sipping some cola! Anyone have any glass cleaner (again)? I'm an old Viking myself! Love that lefse… Norge! Norge! Yay, Norge! Trent/ReAnimators
#97582From: Vance SchowalterDec 22, 1994 10:36 PM
>>>Lutefisk was what the vikings used as a last resort to overwhelm the enemy, and lefsa was used to strengthen their shields if the enemy wisely wore clothes pins on their noses. *8^)<<< >Gak! You got me with that one while I was sipping some cola! Anyone have any glass cleaner (again)? I'm an old Viking myself! Love that lefse… Norge! Norge! Yay, Norge!< Sorry about the cola! *8^) I remember how my grandfather used to go on about the virtues of his beloved lutefisk and what the rest of us were missing… … Of course, he was 90 and I was in my 20's, so what did he have to worry about? He'd already lived a full life… *8^/ Actually, he was a terrific guy. Especially when mom "didn't" make the lutefisk! *8^D -= Vance =- Image Master Internet: viking@freenet.edmonton.ab.ca
#97690From: Sean HannonDec 24, 1994 10:03 PM
Lutefisk? Lefsa? This thread is titled "PAR vs. VLAB", isn't it? So what does… OH! I see, it's short for "PAR GYNT vs. VIKINGLAB". Carry on. 😉 Sean Hannon Ad Rats – Stamford, CT
#97698From: Vance SchowalterDec 25, 1994 4:50 PM
Thank you! *8^) Now, let's all sing, like the Swedish sing! "Fore-bere-heer-de-hroo-shkdish-shkidoo… fore-bere-heer-dere-de-da-doo… morp-morp-morp!" __ / \ |\__| |__/| \__|____|__/ |~||~| < \/ > |\==/| —- heh! \__/ -= Vance =- Image Master Internet: viking@freenet.edmonton.ab.ca
#97708From: JIM WALLISDec 26, 1994 1:05 PM
>>> Fore-bere-heer etc. <<< Must be v e r y cold in Edmondton-chuk! <G> Ah…Summers in Vegreville. Or Autumn in Red Deer. Enough to make anyone sing like that! Jim Jaywal Productions, Inc.
#97808From: Peter GreciDec 28, 1994 5:24 PM
nonononononono it's "Kan Du Slemme Gimle Norge?" Member of the Association of Media Professionals
#97879From: Trent K. JohnsonDec 29, 1994 5:24 PM
"Jeg snakker norsk!" -from 'Norwegian in 10 minutes a day' Trent/ReAnimators
#97374From: Peter GreciDec 20, 1994 3:24 PM
Oh no Flying Vikings are gonna start again….. You Forgot Fiskebolls(or however ya spell it) Member of the Association of Media Professionals
#97432From: Erik FlomDec 21, 1994 2:14 AM
OK…OK. I'm willing to let sleeping cods lie. :^) Keep On Toastin' Erik Flom – ELF Works 3D Construction Co.
#97438From: Vance SchowalterDec 21, 1994 2:49 AM
>Oh no Flying Vikings are gonna start again….. You Forgot Fiskebolls(or however ya spell it)< Geeez, what's wrong with a little rapin' of villages and pillagin' of women and bad jokes, every now and then?? *8^) (Wait a minute… rapin' of villages and pillagin' of women??? Hmmm…) -= Vance =- Image Master Internet: viking@freenet.edmonton.ab.ca
#97611From: Peter GreciDec 23, 1994 9:30 AM
Spam Spam Spam Spam Wonderful Spam Wonderful Spam Member of the Association of Media Professionals
#97612From: Vance SchowalterDec 23, 1994 10:36 AM
"Spam Spam Spam Spam Wonderful Spam Wonderful Spam" And speaking of Spam, did you know it was originally made for post lutefisk survivors who's tastebuds had nothing left to live for? -= Vance =- Image Master Internet: viking@freenet.edmonton.ab.ca
#97218From: Erik FlomDec 18, 1994 1:28 PM
VLAB actually uses Motion JPEG, so at least they don't have the problems associated with the MPEG-I data format. One thing I think I forgot ot mention was that it looked like they were using a 'letterbox' version of T2. By using letterboxed video, there's less data, meaning they'd be able to turn up the quality of the JPEG compression….. Keep On Toastin' Erik Flom – ELF Works 3D Construction Co.
#97261From: henry tellerDec 18, 1994 9:46 PM
Thanks for the input. Every time I learn something new, I discover how much more I don't know. Hank/Videology Where you get all the P.O.M.P. under all circumstances.
#97284From: Erik FlomDec 19, 1994 1:20 AM
Glad to have supplied my $.0002. :^) Keep On Toastin' Erik Flom – ELF Works 3D Construction Co.