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#CBM cashing in its chips

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#4843From: Jack DeckardJan 10, 1986 8:44 PM
I saw a report in Infoworld that Commodore probably will not stay solvent much longer. Tonight there was a report that Commodore was closing two of its plants on the news. Oh please, tell me that the Gods that watch over really inspiring pieces of technology have not turned their backs on the Amiga. I own one and think it is the best thing I've ever owned. If CBM goes under, I'll still love and code for my Amiga, but the 3rd party software will never be the same.
#4883From: Bela Lubkin/SysopJan 11, 1986 7:39 AM
Commodore closed an assembly plant in Great Britain which was using old technology. They are better off with their other plants which use robots and assembly lines than with the old hand-assembly plants. Don't get so excited! (Information is all 23rd hand, so I would also like to see some input from the horse's mouth…) – Bela
#4883From: Bela Lubkin/SysopJan 11, 1986 7:39 AM
Commodore closed an assembly plant in Great Britain which was using old technology. They are better off with their other plants which use robots and assembly lines than with the old hand-assembly plants. Don't get so excited! (Information is all 23rd hand, so I would also like to see some input from the horse's mouth…) – Bela
#5082From: Dave Haynie/C128 LandJan 13, 1986 5:05 PM
As far as I've heard here, the two plants closed were not really necessary any more. The plant in England was assembly only, and far behind Japan, Hong Kong, and Germany in terms of production automation and low costs. The plant in California was a small chip fab plant. As most of our production chips are made in the far east or in King of Prussia, I believe them when they say this too was trimming the fat (you can't always believe what you hear, even if you work here). CBM isn't likely to be making the same volume of computers now as it had in the past, for the simple reason that nobody wants the extremely cheap computer (i.e. VIC-20, C64). Thus the C128 becomes bottom of the line for future projects. The C64 is still made, but not in the volumes of the past. CBM sold nearly six million C64s, and expects to go over six million this year. That's more units than all IBM PCs and PClones combined. And a C64 contains about as many custom chips as an Amiga. Of course the Amiga parts are much more complex, but when it comes to chip fab its essentially the same thing.
#5082From: Dave Haynie/C128 LandJan 13, 1986 5:05 PM
As far as I've heard here, the two plants closed were not really necessary any more. The plant in England was assembly only, and far behind Japan, Hong Kong, and Germany in terms of production automation and low costs. The plant in California was a small chip fab plant. As most of our production chips are made in the far east or in King of Prussia, I believe them when they say this too was trimming the fat (you can't always believe what you hear, even if you work here). CBM isn't likely to be making the same volume of computers now as it had in the past, for the simple reason that nobody wants the extremely cheap computer (i.e. VIC-20, C64). Thus the C128 becomes bottom of the line for future projects. The C64 is still made, but not in the volumes of the past. CBM sold nearly six million C64s, and expects to go over six million this year. That's more units than all IBM PCs and PClones combined. And a C64 contains about as many custom chips as an Amiga. Of course the Amiga parts are much more complex, but when it comes to chip fab its essentially the same thing.