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Insider for A1000?

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#28397From: Richard Rae/SYSOPJan 2, 1989 12:11 AM
Dean, a question for you: did you ever put together a schematic/et. al. for Ralph? He said you designed the Insider completely out of your head (wrong turn of phrase there 8) and never put anything on paper; was that in fact the case? Rick
#28479From: Dean BrownJan 2, 1989 8:13 PM
Rick, Yah, I was out of my head, alright! ;^) There is no schematic as such, but there is documentation as to how the board is wired. In fact, in a form that I find easier to use to debug with. It is true that for a few months there was no paper documentation for the board, and on occasion, I still repair some boards over the phone while working from memory. I know its a bad habit not to document my designs, but I am doing better these days. I have to, since I went to a CAD design system. I do find it a lot easier to edit the design while its stored in the grey matter. 8) -Dean
#29205From: Steven D. KapplinJan 6, 1989 8:20 PM
Dean, have noticed I get a disconnected message on your Novi BBs. Is the system no longer on? A while ago I raised the question of why autoboot will not work properly with the 1.3 ROMs I have replaced in my KwikStart. (I have the older one with 4 ROMs). Have you had any insight into why this happens and how one might get around it? Steve PS. Everything has been working like a charm! Insider, Kwikstart, Cltd stuff!! Love it.
#29213From: Dean BrownJan 6, 1989 9:45 PM
Steven, Yes, the Novi Download has been disconnected due to an almost total lack of use. It had gotten to the point that the usage wasn't worth the cost of the phone line and the space that it took up. As for autoboot not working with the 1.3 ROMs on a KwikStart board, I really don't recall any mention of a problem. (could be me though!) If you could refresh my memory as to what isn't working properly, I'll try to find out what's happening. What is it that you're trying to autoboot? If it's RAD, try not addmeming the 256K of KS mem in. -Dean
#29477From: Steven D. KapplinJan 8, 1989 5:02 PM
Dean, too summarize. I have tried the following: 1. Booting normally using addmem (the one supplied on Insider disk) Mounting RAD: and putting the required startup files on RAD: Remove disk from df0: and warm boot. The machine automatically defaults to request to insert WB disk. 2. Same procedure as above, but no addmem. Same results as before. 3. Same procedures as above two, but omit using FastMemFirst. Also same results as before. 4. Same procedures but cold boot with KS 1.3 on disk instead of using ROM, autoboot from RAD: works as it's supposed. That's basically what I have experienced, Dean. I had relayed this before on the Novi board and the response was that you all had NOT tested this with the ROMs and no one else had reported the problem. It's not really a big deal, but if it worked that would be nice. I normally move quickly to the hard drive for the completion of my startup, so I don't do much from the floppy. Again I am using the older KwikStart with the 4 ROMs and an Insider and Cltd Amega outboard memory and Cltd Host/Controller. The addmem does not seem to be contributing to the problem, because the autoboot fails immediately. That is once you warm boot the RAD: device has completely disappeared. In a word, it doesn't hang around on warm boots whether addmem has been used or not. This is true even if you don't try autobooting. The problem is that the RAD: device doesn't remain in memory at the moment you warm boot.