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#HP DesignJet Plotter

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#34229From: Ron WarrisFeb 22, 1992 10:07 PM
We recently purchased a new HP DesignJet Ink Jet plotter for a new alliance. We were most impressed with the sample and demo plots, and considering the purchase price, it appeared to be our best option. However, the plotted output from AutoCAD using the HPGL2 drivers that were shipped with the DesignJet is not quite the same quality and resolution as the demo plots that the DesignJet produces, or that the dealer showed us. Instead of nice solid crisp arcs or text we can see the constituent dots that make up the image, compared to the demo plots which produce very dark, well defined lines and characters. I have studied the HPGL2 documentation carefully, and cannot seem to find any way to improve the output. Also tried various settings on the plotter itself with no luck. Not that the output is so poor that we cannot use it, it is just that we are a little disappointed that it is not the same quality as the samples that we were provided. Anyone have similiar experience? The dealer is at a loss to explain it, and HP has been no help at all. Ron Warris Colt Engineering Corporation
#34236From: Peter K. SheerinFeb 22, 1992 11:22 PM
Gee, Ron- Seems like you ran into the same problem I did when we were scouting out the DesignJet. We haven't purchaced one yet, partly due to that problem, partly due to a convincing enough need (read: lower than normal plotting load). Same story as your's: Dealer couldn't explain the problem, and they even called HP to no avail. I first thought that the problem was inherent to plotting on mylar or vellum, as all the bond plots I'd seen were nice & dark (just coincidence, I think, now). Not trusting salesmen to be more knoledgable than I, I made sure I got a good look at the operation manual. I happened to notice mention of "hardware vs. sofware controll". I still haven't verified this with my own eyes (dealer never returned phone call…), but I've been told by someone else here on the forum that my supposition is correct: The plotter's default setting is software controll, meaning that Autocad, or the driver, can override any settings that you make on the control pannel. Set it to hardware control, and all is well, apparently. If this is indeed true, *PLEASE* let me know! I'll see if I can dig up that old message.
#34237From: Tony PalmisanoFeb 22, 1992 11:22 PM
Ron- my huge Tapcis age file strikes again…. <g> ————— Tony- When I looked at the DesignJet, I found two problems that I wasn't able to find a way around at the time, and without a solution, the Designjet won't work for us. I'm sure there's a solution, though, so perhaps you could help. 2) When we had some sample drawings plotted on the HP film, *and* vellum, what were supposed to be solid lines weren't solid. I set the pen configuration myself, so I know it was configured right. Except that I didn't change the software/hardware controll setting. I'm guessing that because I left it set to software, Autocad or the driver was fiddling with my pen settings, setting the pen I had set to 100% screen, down to perhaps a 90% screen. Am I on target? ——————————————————————– Peter, 2. We've set the control setting to hardware and avoided the screening problems you've mentioned. Leaving it at the software setting causes Autocad to plot some interesting screens when you don't want them.
#34453From: Tony Tanzillo [LISP TM]Feb 24, 1992 1:42 PM
Bill – Many of us have problems with network traffic, because AutoCAD keeps the temporary working database file in the same place as the .DWG file you're editing. It does this to ensure that you don't run out of disk space (e.g, if it were to place the workspace files on another drive, you could end up with a drawing that's too large to save back to the original drive where the .DWG file is loacated). Many of us get around the problem using the technique that Mike suggested, and some of us go even further, and use a custom front-end that transparently moves the .DWG file to the local drive, invokes AutoCAD on it, and then moves it back to the network. A front end like this could also maintain a lock on the network for the drawing that's being edited on the local drive as well, if it were designed for such. I know this doesn't solve you're problem, but it does give you some insight into how others are working around it. -TonyT.