HELP – Out to paper
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I would hope the dye-sub blows the Fiery away… here in SF Fiery's cost $8-20
per page (depends on where and how big), and dye-subs cost AT LEAST twice as
much.
As I said, I did a serious side by side comparison of the JPG and TGA images,
and could find no differences.
John Tissavary (La Luna cie)
John:
FWIW – Impact images here in Princeton, N.J. sells the 8×10 dye subs
for $15.00. Sounds like a pretty good deal. He sells the fiery
proofs for a buck or two less but he can go to 11×17. Sounds like a
few people could save money if they FEDEX'ed their files to N.J. and
had 'em FEDEX'ed back! (If you or anyone wants info on Impact Images
drop me a note – I wish The real way to go is to buy my own printer.
This Fargo unit sounds a little too good to be true if the price is
under $2000. Do you know anything about this sucker?
I've checked out the Fargo Primera, and it's really neat if you do a lot of
stills. Not up to the bigger machines' caliber, but really spectacular for the
price.
I'd like the info for Impact Images, although I don't do much in the way of
stills. Sounds like a good deal.
John Tissavary (La Luna cie)
John,
<<I've checked out the Fargo Primera, and it's really neat if you do a lot of
stills. Not up to the bigger machines' caliber, but really spectacular for the
price.>>
Where does it fall down. Is it speed, resolution?
I do lots of onsy-twosies and am pretty happy with the results I get from my
local Canon Lasaer copier guy but the price bums my high a bit.
Regards, Peter Kroko
Speed. The reason it's so cheap, is that it has no memory or internal
CPU or anything that the more expensive printers have – your computer
does that, and as such, is totally tied up during printing. If you
do anything in Windows while the Fargo is printing, it stops until
you relenquish control of Windows back to it. It IS a wonderful
little printer, though, and I've found that the Canon CLC makes fine
copies of the Dye-sub output – so you can personally control the
initial print, then, if you need to make a number of copies for
proposals (which we do a lot) then you just shoot them down to the
copy-house for CLC copies.
Dave,
Speed. The reason it's so cheap, is that it has no memory or internal CPU>>
Seems like you could pick up a cheapo bear bones 3 or 486 with a few megs of
ram and little else, network to your pc and use it as a dedicated print file
executer and you'd still be way ahead of the game.
How is the image quality? have you seen what happens when its limits are
pushed? How does it handl lots of colors etc.
Also, what is the media cost?
Regards, Peter Kroko
Peter:
>>How is the image quality? have you seen what happens when its limits are
>>pushed? How does it handl lots of colors etc.
The dye-sub image quality is really nice. There is often some <hmm, banding is
not the right word…> printer artifacting <?> evident in large solid colored
areas (like a sky) but this is not that noticable, and in color photocopies,
virtually disappears. The printer tends to be a little heavy on the MAGENTA,
but by playing with the "intensity" slider in its Windows driver and with the
image in Photostyler (or other image editor) you can overcome that.
The thermal-wax is not quite as nice — the res. is 203dpi (something which is
not really noticable in dye-sub) — but from a few feet, it looks good. The Wax
can help you do test prints, but the color balance (CYMK) seems to be more even
(not as MAGENTA weighted), so it's not a reliable tool for previewing color
before going dye-sub.
All in all, I'm really happy with it, and the ability to handle and adjust
in-house instead of worrying that you'll get back a green sky/blue grass print
that's too dark for the presentation in a half hour can be quite relaxing.<g>
Dave
David,
<<instead of worrying that you'll get back a green sky/blue grass print that's
too dark for the presentation in a half hour can be quite relaxing.>>
Personally I find ispiraration and creativity from such little surprises<g>
Peter Kroko
Great Peter! I'll just blame you next time something comes in wrong and too
late to get corrected — what's your number so that I can have my bosses call
and chew on you?<BG>
Dave
David,
<<what's your number so that I can have my bosses call and chew on you?>>
It's ah unlisted,..I'm mean I forgot..forget…the phone dosn't work…
Just bought the printer in question…have'nt had time to set it up but looking
forward to it.
Regards, peter Kroko
Update: Have used it now…pretty handy litle critter…wish the materials were
a little cheaper…
>>…wish the materials were a little cheaper…
You'd complain if you were hung with a new rope! (as my dad always says <g>)
Dave