#4000 Accelerator
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I'm sorry, but that information is classified…
NOT!
Announcing –
The new GVP 040 accelerator for the Amiga 4000.
*Blazing 040 running at warp speed 40mHz!
*Up to 32 MB on board
*Expandible to a whopping 128MB's
*Optional FAST SCSI-II interface
*So hot, you can sizzle fajitas – Coming soon to a dealer near you…
See February Amiga World for details.
-GW-
GVP,
Could you please expound on the 3000 compatibility of the 040
accelerator? Hopefully, we can assume, GVP has done some testing on the
subject and will pass these results along. What chips, or revisons should
I say, will be necessary? Will 2.04 owners be able to use the board?
Also, could you possibly give us an approximate shipping time?
//
Gary Vander Mei on Auto-Pilot \X/
> Could you please expound on the 3000 compatibility of the 040
>accelerator? Hopefully, we can assume, GVP has done some testing on the
>subject and will pass these results along. What chips, or revisons should
>I say, will be necessary? Will 2.04 owners be able to use the board?
The boards are going through standard testing at this time and the board is
intended to be used in the Amiga 3000 computers. We have no information at
this very moment if updated chips on the motherboard (i.e. RAMSEY, BUSTER,
etc.) will be necessary.
> Also, could you possibly give us an approximate shipping time?
First Quarter 1994.
I have an early 4000/040, I am considering you 40MHz card with the SCSI II
option for it. Will I have problems with it due to the older buster chip
and or any other problems associated with the older 4000s? Also what is
the pricing of this combo and are you offering a trade-in program?
Jim R. Ollick
Using AP from Bergenfield, NJ
"I have an early 4000/040,"
Oh, you poor thing… You're in the same boat as I am. I'd much rather
get my motherboard updated, although Commodore won't let me. The GVP card
(if it works in our machines) seems like an expensive way to get around
the SCSI problems, and it won't solve the inability to use most Zorro-III
cards. What do you think?
-Chris
I have an early 4000/040, I am considering you 40MHz card with the SCSI II
option for it. Will I have problems with it due to the older buster chip
and or any other problems associated with the older 4000s? Also what is
the pricing of this combo and are you offering a trade-in program?
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Jim,
Thanks for the interest in our new product! We would recommend that you bring
your A4000 to most current status under any and all circumstances, however it
will probably have no adverse effect on your use of the accelerator.
The retail prail (which is all we may quote on CompuServe) is $1899 with 4Mb
memory onboard. Check with your local dealer for his pricing.
Trade in? What would you be trading in? Generally we offer a trade-in program
from one of our product to a superior one, so a trade-in will probably not be
offred.
Steve Peoples
Marketing Manager
Thanks for the info, by trade-in I was refering to the existing C= CPU
board. I guess I might sell it to a 4000/030 owner. C= will only replace
my motherboard under warranty if I purchase a 4091 controller from DKB. I
would rather not do this if I can get your CPU card with a SCSI II
interface on it and not have to use up a valuable expansion slot. Do you
know one way or the other if my older BUSTER chip will interfer with your
SCSI II's working properly?
I have owned several of your accelerators and controllers for my 2000
machines. In my opinion your company offers great products and support.
Jim R. Ollick
Using AP from Bergenfield, NJ
Thanks for the info, by trade-in I was refering to the existing C= CPU
board. I guess I might sell it to a 4000/030 owner. C= will only replace
my motherboard under warranty if I purchase a 4091 controller from DKB. I
would rather not do this if I can get your CPU card with a SCSI II
interface on it and not have to use up a valuable expansion slot. Do you
know one way or the other if my older BUSTER chip will interfer with your
SCSI II's working properly?
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Ohhhh I hadn't heard of this issue being the case. To paraphrase then,
Commodore is considering this a warranty issue only if you purchse their
controller card (licensed to DKB)? Hmmmmm. Not nice. I can not confirm or
deny the Buster issues for you ate the moment. Engineering is still working on
this. More as it becomes available.
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I have owned several of your accelerators and controllers for my 2000
machines. In my opinion your company offers great products and support.
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<blush> Thanks!
Steve Peoples
GVP Marketing Manager
" To paraphrase then, Commodore is considering this a warranty issue only
if you purchse their controller card (licensed to DKB)? Hmmmmm. Not
nice."
Precisely. I also own an early A4000 with a crippled Zorro-III bus and
an malfunctioning IDE bus. Commodore will not repair it under warranty
unless I can somehow buy a Commodore Zorro-III board.
Consequently, the A4000 was the last Commodore machine I will ever buy.
If they can snub purchasers of a $2200 product like this, then they've
just dug a quick grave for the Amiga and themselves.
-Chris
Chris..
C= replaced my motherboard, cpu card and the keyboard under the warranty
without having to purchase a 4091. C= is also replacing the 120mg HD, but
that's on BO. All I did was call my local dealer and ask…
Eddie.Ski
I understand that CBM Canada is honoring the warranties… and I've had
alot of Canadians "correct" me on this issue. However, I live in the US.
Also, some US customers have gotten warranty repairs, but either because
their dealer was nice enough to pull some strings or because a magazine
published a letter of complaint and they fixed it as a PR move or because
they know people at Commodore. The official Commodore US policy is that a
motherboard defect is not covered under warranty if it fails to work
properly with "mere" 3rd-party hardware; Apparently, it doesn't matter
whether the machine it actually up to specs.
-Chris
Chris..
I live in Texas, maybe the reason I got the motherboard is that I have
shopping on and off at the local Amigia dealer since 1986..
Eddie.Ski
"The retail prail (which is all we may quote on CompuServe) is $1899 with
4Mb memory onboard. Check with your local dealer for his pricing.
Trade in? What would you be trading in?"
It's interesting to note that Creative Computer's has the G-Force 4000
advertised for $689. So I take it this is a major misprint, or a massive
discount 8^)
// John – (Who enjoys harrasing the vendors)
\X/ Mercury@ins.infonet.net
> It's interesting to note that Creative Computer's has the G-Force 4000 >
advertised for $689. So I take it this is a major misprint, or a massive >
discount 8^)
> // John – (Who enjoys harrasing the vendors)
> \X/ Mercury@ins.infonet.net
I saw that ad also. Mabie I'll call them to find out.
Jim R. Ollick
Using AP from Bergenfield, NJ
Take a close look at the ad. I think it mentions a magical 50MHz CPU with
a MMU which may well be an 030 based GVP board instead of the 40MHz 040
wonder. I'd watch out for Creative Computers…
Daniel J. McCoy // CIS – 73742,3072
AP Engaged! \X/ Rendering while shaking!
Dan: I know all about Creative Computers, that's why I do most of my mail
order from Safe Harbor. I called Creative yesterday and asked them about
the ad, and they said it was a typo and they don't have a price yet for
the G-Force 4000. Sure it was 8^) Anyway, looks like the G-Force 4000 is
more $$$ than I'm willing to spend right now. I'll wait 6 months or so
when the price drops to about 1/2.
// John – (Who enjoys harrasing the vendors)
\X/ Mercury@ins.infonet.net
Dan,
What, someone else who has a problem with CC? Lordy, lordy!!
Trent
Flying near the Pole in the Great White North
It's interesting to note that Creative Computer's has the G-Force 4000
advertised for $689. So I take it this is a major misprint, or a massive
discount 8^)
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Yah, a misprint, unfortunately. Please call them for accurate pricing. It
happens sometimes that way.
Gee, I called and said I'd take three at that price!
They said "We don't know what the price *WILL* be. We don't have them yet and
GVP hasn't told us the price"
=8()
Hmmm…that's an interesting marketing technique that CC is employing.
B^|
// daniel on autopilot in paradise
\X/ powered by intel and motorola
Is the price classified? (say no.)
What kind of upgrade (trade in) will be offering owners of the 4000 '040?
(say low price…)
Burning the Midnight Toast
Patrick White