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#129836From: John FoustJun 16, 1988 9:58 PM
Yes, you can make money from selling PD software. It is fairly labor and capital intensive. You can dupe the disks at order time, or have someone else dupe them, but it entails a fair amount of up-front investment what with disk prices at about a dollar each. Add handling and shipping, and I don't know if you should call this margin a "profit", but certainly a lot of people are doing it. I make the AMICUS disks. I did this for two reasons: one, I wanted to promote the Amiga, and I knew PD disk sales could fuel the startup of many user groups. Two, I wanted to promote myself and get my name known. Both tactics worked. If the software is truly PD, then you can do anything you want with it, including removing the names and calling it your own. Intellectual copyright laws are established by precedent, and the such terms as "shareware" and "public domain as long as you don't sell it for more than $X" are meaningless in current law. Most software isn't even copyrighted correctly, so its legal status is questionable – until tested in the courts, as with any copyright.
#129851From: Henry ColonnaJun 16, 1988 10:46 PM
So what about legalities? we're talking morality! Your first several goals seem to me to be "fine" – promoting of the Amiga, etc. Plus it's a fantastic way to get good software into the hands of those who don't have modems or belong to users groups. And I've noticed lots of "busy bee librarian" types who have no use or interest in the actual software itself, but enjoy having to collect, catalogue, and label it all. I'd MUCH rather see them do it with PD software than with commercial software…. But, I'm not too sure about selling PD software for money. I'm not against it or for it, I'm in the "thinking" stage. By the way, can we get Amy Report on the Amicus and Fred Fish collections? how does one go about doing that?
#129851From: Henry ColonnaJun 16, 1988 10:46 PM
So what about legalities? we're talking morality! Your first several goals seem to me to be "fine" – promoting of the Amiga, etc. Plus it's a fantastic way to get good software into the hands of those who don't have modems or belong to users groups. And I've noticed lots of "busy bee librarian" types who have no use or interest in the actual software itself, but enjoy having to collect, catalogue, and label it all. I'd MUCH rather see them do it with PD software than with commercial software…. But, I'm not too sure about selling PD software for money. I'm not against it or for it, I'm in the "thinking" stage. By the way, can we get Amy Report on the Amicus and Fred Fish collections? how does one go about doing that?
#129903From: Don Curtis/SYSOPJun 17, 1988 12:28 AM
John, A bit of a correction…ALL software is copyrighted by the author the moment he distributes it, even if the author places the software in the Public Domain, the author still owns the copyright…the author has merely relinquished any rights he may have had for infringment. A piece of software that expressly states "copyright by xxxx 19xx" can ONLY be distributed in accordance with the author's wishes. If the author also makes the software 'freely re-distributable', then it may be distributed for no profit (copying costs are acceptable) by anyone without specific permission from the author. It may NOT be modified, or included in a commercial program without specific permission from the author. You do NOT need to even include a copyright notice under US law, let alone register it with the government for a copyright to be valid, all adding the notice does is make it easier to prosecute a violation. Same goes for registration, it simply makes it easier to prosecute by establishing a copy of the software as of a certain date from a specific individual so that in the future, establishing which was first, or what algorithms are being used, etc. are easier to prove.
#129905From: Steve AhlstromJun 17, 1988 12:41 AM
Another advantage of registration is that, should there be legal action, if the registered copyright holder can be awarded more than actual damages. If the copyright is not registered the award can be for actual damages only.
#129905From: Steve AhlstromJun 17, 1988 12:41 AM
Another advantage of registration is that, should there be legal action, if the registered copyright holder can be awarded more than actual damages. If the copyright is not registered the award can be for actual damages only.
#129903From: Don Curtis/SYSOPJun 17, 1988 12:28 AM
John, A bit of a correction…ALL software is copyrighted by the author the moment he distributes it, even if the author places the software in the Public Domain, the author still owns the copyright…the author has merely relinquished any rights he may have had for infringment. A piece of software that expressly states "copyright by xxxx 19xx" can ONLY be distributed in accordance with the author's wishes. If the author also makes the software 'freely re-distributable', then it may be distributed for no profit (copying costs are acceptable) by anyone without specific permission from the author. It may NOT be modified, or included in a commercial program without specific permission from the author. You do NOT need to even include a copyright notice under US law, let alone register it with the government for a copyright to be valid, all adding the notice does is make it easier to prosecute a violation. Same goes for registration, it simply makes it easier to prosecute by establishing a copy of the software as of a certain date from a specific individual so that in the future, establishing which was first, or what algorithms are being used, etc. are easier to prove.