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#86913From: Paul MastersFeb 26, 1994 5:01 PM
Can the PAR be controlled by an 'external' edit controller? That is, can it be used as a VTR in an AB edit setup with 'tape' VTRs? If so, what type of 'drive' does it look like? Is there a developers kit so that drivers and other controllers can be written? (All I have heard on this thread sounds great! I have a Fast VM for editing and would need the PAR to interface with. (Fast is also making a digital recorder but I can get very little info on it, except that it will cost about twice as much as the PAR.))
#86953From: Don LandisFeb 26, 1994 7:51 PM
Paul, I am wiring the PAR into my system as a standard VCR. it will be controlled via the GPI trigger on the PAR. There is a conflict with the PAR software and the standard 5 second preroll. The PAR is GPI calibrated to 3 seconds. So I will be doing some experimenting here to work around this. One approach is to develop a standard number of first frame stills in the beginning to take up the extra time. Until I get it wired next week I'm only guessing at how it will actually work.
#87382From: David WhiteFeb 28, 1994 2:58 PM
"Can the PAR be controlled by an 'external' edit controller? That is, can it be used as a VTR in an AB edit setup with 'tape' VTRs? If so, what type of 'drive' does it look like?" Not at the moment, the plans call for it to look like a laser disk recorder from Sony. Rev 2.0, no dates available. "Is there a developers kit so that drivers and other controllers can be written?" Not at the moment. Because not one developer that I have talked to can understand that this is NOT a NLE. Contact me directly if you have plans for anything else. David White Computer Products Manager Digital Processings Systems
#87404From: Don LandisFeb 28, 1994 4:45 PM
Dave: The best way to control the PAR via an edit controller is with the GPI trigger, right? I just got the special gpi cable today so I won't have this tested until tomorrow.
#87688From: David WhiteMar 1, 1994 3:54 PM
Dave: The best way to control the PAR via an edit controller is with the GPI trigger, right? I just got the special gpi cable today so I won't have this tested until tomorrow. Yes it is at the moment, later (rev 2) feature is locking to a Horita timecode reader off your serial port.
#87705From: Don LandisMar 1, 1994 4:33 PM
OK, Dave. I did some work with the GPI trigger and is there anyway to change the roll time from 3 seconds to 5 seconds? For now, I've built in a 2 second countdown *.ani I join to my subject ani to time it. It works but a nuisance. In the next software release I wish for two things: 1. relocate the GPI button to the front panel for convenience since it must be turned on with each edit. 2. Allow the pre roll time to be selected from say 3, 5, and 10 second settings, not just fixed at 3 seconds. ( My controller can be set at 5 and 10 seconds but not at 3.)
#87912From: David WhiteMar 2, 1994 10:39 AM
The next release version (version 1.1), will have the varible preroll gadgets in the preferences section. As for moving it to the front screen the plans call to move the betacam switch to prefs and put the GPI switch on the deck in its place.
#88159From: Don LandisMar 2, 1994 9:40 PM
Man oh man you guys sure are responsive. I do have it working with my little countdown.ani joined but life would be easier if I had the 5 seconds from the start. I know some edit controllers use 3 seconds, but mine does not. Thanks Looking forward to having the GPI switch easily accessed on the front panel. I might have already asked for this, can't remember.: You need to add a range selection feature when selecting files in the DOS drive window. Similar to holding down the shift key to select the range of files like in Windows file manager. I had four animations in one directory today and had to individually deselect 240 TGA's to leave the remainder 960 tgas desired the only selected. If there already is an easier method, I'd like to know about it.
#88185From: Gus GrubbaMar 2, 1994 11:56 PM
There are several ways to accomplish this. Just do it from the DOS prompt instead. I use XTree mostly. You can create all kind of filters for file selection. After you've selected the group of files, just copy them all to the par's drive letter. Another program I use is Lotus Magellan (long gone but still a great utility). You can set just about any PAR parameter from the command line. Just type PARDRV -? for a list of options. To check the current set of parameters, just type PARDRV -v.
#88259From: David WhiteMar 3, 1994 9:30 AM
The feature is being added, at the moment the easiest way to to go to dos and use the copy command to do chap*.* e:\myanim. This generally will copy them to the PAR just fine.
#88364From: Don LandisMar 3, 1994 2:20 PM
Great, Dave. I know about the work arounds in DOS but I just wanted to make sure you were aware of the wish list item. The other little problem I did have, John Jordan explained last night but I haven't had the time to try it yet. The PAR machine has a rendering in progress for the last 15 hours. <G>
#88508From: Mar 4, 1994 12:54 AM
>> the easiest way to to go to dos and use the copy command to do >> chap*.* e:\myanim. Not really! This assumes that the files are all in order. In network rendering, this is never the case, and your animation will look a bit funny!
#88621From: David WhiteMar 4, 1994 9:02 AM
>Not really! This assumes that the files are all in order. In network rendering, this is >never the case, and your animation will look a bit funny! I guess that means that you did not sell them one for every computer. 🙂 A PAR in every PC is my goal!
#88655From: Mar 4, 1994 9:55 AM
I'm good, but not that good! <g> Actually, that is what the IPAS routine NDUMP.IXP does for you. See IPAS.TXT for full details…
#87948From: Mar 2, 1994 12:30 PM
Don: I had a conversion with DPS Canada about the GPI trigger. In a future version of the program it will be settable within the application. The information for the default is stored in the hex file that gets loaded onto the PAR when you start. They will look into just changing the default to 5 seconds instead of 3 as a quick temporary solution for you in the hex file. Should be a quick change (famous last words!), if I get it first I'll e-mail it to you. Greg Pyros
#88084From: John EllisMar 2, 1994 6:42 PM
Greg, >> They will look into just changing the default to 5 seconds instead of 3..<< HEY! HEY! The EVO is 3! If that becomes the default and there's no way to change, then one problem has been fixed only to create another.<g> Unless I can use the PAR.HEX file from this release with the new upgraded PAR.EXE? -JE
#88172From: Don LandisMar 2, 1994 10:16 PM
Don't panic, John. Dave is aware of the need to make it variable and you need to make the upgrade to ver 1.1. to get this feature according to what he wrote tonight. BTW how do you plan to use the GPI trigger anyway? Does the EVO have this feature? I checked a few spec sheets and it was not listed. Usually this feature is found on edit controllers. However, if you're handy with the old soldering torch and acid flux you may be able to burn one into your EVO control board in a few hours. <BG>
#88216From: John EllisMar 3, 1994 3:02 AM
Don, >> Usually this feature is found on edit controllers. << Which just goes to show you what a cool little machine the EVO is! <G> And not only that, but you can adjust the timing from between 00 – 60 frames. -JE
#88363From: Don LandisMar 3, 1994 2:20 PM
>> And not only that, but you can adjust the timing from between 00 – 60 frames. Timing for what? preroll? If so 2 seconds is pretty short. I thought the shortest in the industry was 3 seconds.
#88481From: John EllisMar 3, 1994 10:41 PM
Don, >> Timing for what? preroll? << Typically GPI's are set to go instantaneously. Pre-rolls aren't accomplished with GPI's. Typically they're used for things like triggering ADO's or Chryons. That being the case, a 60 frame adjustment is a very wide window! The EVO is the first device I've heard of where the docs actually suggest using a GPI to trigger "editing". Sony provides the pre-roll codes etc. and are handled through serial communications. Typically your edit controller sends the appropriate signals to the decks for all these functions. Normally GPIs are used only as triggering devices. -JE
#88509From: Mar 4, 1994 12:54 AM
Don: >> I thought the shortest in the industry was 3 seconds. Sony laser disk pre-roll can be set to 0 seconds and works just fine! <g> Greg (keeping you honest!) Pyros
#88219From: Mar 3, 1994 3:34 AM
John: Not to worry! Just keep your hex file as you have it! The only change is one byte telling it the optional preroll time! Relax! <g> Greg Pyros
#88236From: John EllisMar 3, 1994 6:50 AM
Greg: I'm not worried! >> Relax! << Relax? That's what Frankie says! <g> I will. Don's been telling me about how responsive DPS has been. I've got to agree. That they would have an upgrade within 24 hours of his request sounds like the way you and Gus responded to the EVO driver. You guys are starting a precedent around here that's a very refreshing change from "business as usual." My compliments. (SEE, I can be very relaxed when I have confidence in the people I'm dealing with <g>) -JE
#88160From: Don LandisMar 2, 1994 9:41 PM
Wasn't aware you were having the same problem with the GPI. What edit controller are you using?
#88220From: Mar 3, 1994 3:34 AM
Don: I'm not having any problems with the GPI, I was just trying to see if I could help you with yours! Greg Pyros
#87471From: Nathan JohnstonFeb 28, 1994 9:09 PM
It would seem to me that the PAR would make a good storage device for a visual database. For example real estate listings, museum collections etc. If there were an API (windows DLL?) that could allow an external program to call up images or animations by name, it would be possible to link the PAR data to an external database (Of course I would supply the titles, animations, etc. <g>).
#87689From: David WhiteMar 1, 1994 3:54 PM
It would seem to me that the PAR would make a good storage device for a visual database. For example real estate listings, museum collections etc. If there were an API (windows DLL?) that could allow an external program to call up images or animations by name, it would be possible to link the PAR data to an external database (Of course I would supply the titles, animations, etc. <g>). –Nat'n Yes, these and many others are planned.
#87888From: Ralph F. FrantzMar 2, 1994 9:31 AM
David, I am having a couple problems and would like to know if you have heard of them happening. The PAR runs great except that when I exit all DOS charactors turn to some ANSI triangle thing. I can go into say dosshell and on exit all is OK. Second, I am having trouble loading 3DS except when I unload pardrv (pardrv /u). Any suggestions? _Ralph
#87913From: David WhiteMar 2, 1994 10:39 AM
Type mem /c, what does it say right after boot up?
#88247From: Ralph F. FrantzMar 3, 1994 8:04 AM
David, For the last week I have been re-arranging and consolidating drivers. Name Size in Decimal Size in Hex ————- ——————— ————- MSDOS 15552 ( 15.2K) 3CC0 QEMM386 3088 ( 3.0K) C10 ASPI2DOS 10272 ( 10.0K) 2820 UNI_ASP 3920 ( 3.8K) F50 CUNI_ASP 1632 ( 1.6K) 660 COMMAND 2880 ( 2.8K) B40 MOUSE 16192 ( 15.8K) 3F40 VPRBIOS 32176 ( 31.4K) 7DB0 FREE 64 ( 0.1K) 40 FREE 569280 (555.9K) 8AFC0 Total FREE : 569344 (556.0K) Total bytes available to programs : 569344 (556.0K) Largest executable program size : 569008 (555.7K) 32817152 bytes total EMS memory 29802496 bytes free EMS memory 32505856 bytes total contiguous extended memory 0 bytes available contiguous extended memory 10371072 bytes available XMS memory MS-DOS resident in High Memory Area Any clues? -Ralph