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#Hard Disk Interfaces

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#34003From: bill fischerSep 22, 1986 6:30 PM
Does anyone here on CIS know the differences between the various hard disk interfaces. It seems there are about three common ones. They are SASI, SCSI and ST412/506. I've managed to acquire a 38MB drive that uses the ST412/506 interface. Unfortunately, the only COMMERCIAL HD controllers available for the Amiga is SASI(Tecmar) and SCSI(MicroForge). Drat, isn't that always the way??? Everything but the one I need!!!! Come to think of it I think that I heard a RUMOR the other day that Micro-Forge had gone out of business. That means I only have one choice(Tecmar). I've called them twice but nobody there seems to have any idea what I'm talking about. I mean, the question is simple. Is SASI and ST412/506 compatible, and if not is there any way to make them so, with reasonable effort??? Any help from you HDWE guys will be appreciated.
#34059From: Rick SchaefferSep 22, 1986 10:59 PM
I just received brochures, etc. from Ameristar Technologies in Hauppauge NY that includes an ST506 controller. Since others might be interested, I'll post the other products and prices in this message so please don't delete it. AC100 Expansion Chassis. 5 slots, 135 watt power supply, auto config, room for 2 full or 4 half-height drives. $699 AD100 Hard Disk Controller. Handles 4 drives, ST506 type drives. $300 AM100 2 Megabyte Memory. Auto config, on-card vlsi refersh $899 Ethernet Controller. Comes with NFS software and TCP/IP. $699 Ethernet Controller (stand alone side mount) $749 As to availability of these things: they said that the Ethernet card and software are available and shipping now (side mount version). The hard disk controller is supposedly ready early oct although the guy didn't sound real sure of that. The expansion box is supposed to be ready by 1 october as is the 2 mb memory card…the guy seemed to think they might actually be a little earlier than that. Forgot to mention…the expansion box sits underneath the amiga…so no footprint hassles. They also have a wire wrap board, and an extender card for $49 each. They can be reached at: Ameristar Technologies Inc. P.O. Box 415 Hauppauge, NY 11788 Sorry, I don't have the phone number handy…look in the back of the latest Amiga World. Rick Schaeffer
#34059From: Rick SchaefferSep 22, 1986 10:59 PM
I just received brochures, etc. from Ameristar Technologies in Hauppauge NY that includes an ST506 controller. Since others might be interested, I'll post the other products and prices in this message so please don't delete it. AC100 Expansion Chassis. 5 slots, 135 watt power supply, auto config, room for 2 full or 4 half-height drives. $699 AD100 Hard Disk Controller. Handles 4 drives, ST506 type drives. $300 AM100 2 Megabyte Memory. Auto config, on-card vlsi refersh $899 Ethernet Controller. Comes with NFS software and TCP/IP. $699 Ethernet Controller (stand alone side mount) $749 As to availability of these things: they said that the Ethernet card and software are available and shipping now (side mount version). The hard disk controller is supposedly ready early oct although the guy didn't sound real sure of that. The expansion box is supposed to be ready by 1 october as is the 2 mb memory card…the guy seemed to think they might actually be a little earlier than that. Forgot to mention…the expansion box sits underneath the amiga…so no footprint hassles. They also have a wire wrap board, and an extender card for $49 each. They can be reached at: Ameristar Technologies Inc. P.O. Box 415 Hauppauge, NY 11788 Sorry, I don't have the phone number handy…look in the back of the latest Amiga World. Rick Schaeffer
#34276From: Bela LubkinSep 25, 1986 2:32 AM
This won't be any help to you, but I thought I'd note that SASI is the original form of SCSI, a slightly incompatible subset of the current SCSI standard. Dunno how incompatible they really are… Also, MicroForge was definitely in business when I called them a week ago: their number is (404) 688-9464. – Bela
#34276From: Bela LubkinSep 25, 1986 2:32 AM
This won't be any help to you, but I thought I'd note that SASI is the original form of SCSI, a slightly incompatible subset of the current SCSI standard. Dunno how incompatible they really are… Also, MicroForge was definitely in business when I called them a week ago: their number is (404) 688-9464. – Bela
#34316From: Jim NelsonSep 25, 1986 8:45 AM
SCSI is the latest incarnation of an interface that began as SASI, and is now undergoing ANSI standardization. It supports high level control of peripherals, thus expecting some intelligence of same. There's even SCSI+, which supports communication between co-processors and other peers, acting much like a network. ST506, on the other hand, still controls the steppers from the host end! Which is my way of saying that it's dated. You could construct a SCSI peripeheral that controlled a '506, but not vice-versa. I think Ameristar Technologies has a '506 controller for the Amiga, but it may still be in the vapor phase. regards, jgn
#34316From: Jim NelsonSep 25, 1986 8:45 AM
SCSI is the latest incarnation of an interface that began as SASI, and is now undergoing ANSI standardization. It supports high level control of peripherals, thus expecting some intelligence of same. There's even SCSI+, which supports communication between co-processors and other peers, acting much like a network. ST506, on the other hand, still controls the steppers from the host end! Which is my way of saying that it's dated. You could construct a SCSI peripeheral that controlled a '506, but not vice-versa. I think Ameristar Technologies has a '506 controller for the Amiga, but it may still be in the vapor phase. regards, jgn