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#It's only a Mirage

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#36782From: Chris GriggOct 20, 1986 2:36 AM
At the risk of a) appearing to harp on a subject, and b) depressing you greatly: Do go see & hear a IIgs, the demo stuff is quite impressive. Saxaphone –real saxaphone, not looped– with digital reverb (recorded, not computed reverb), drum set, etc… and no recorder-through-a-carpet 7.5KHz cutoff.
#36810From: Richard RaeOct 20, 1986 5:02 PM
Chris, No, I haven't yet. You aren't harping, and I wouldn't be depressed. ANY advance is an advance, and the fact that it didn't occur in my computer first is only a minor inconvenience. After all, those Yamaha and Ensoniq chip sets are just that… chip sets. Anything they can build in the box we could hang on the buss… if someone wants to badly enough. Me, personally, I want something better than Mirage quality, though I will agree with you that, at the current state of the art, Mirage sound quality exceeds Amiga sound quality. If price and availablility were the same, and assuming high quality audio were your goal, which would YOU rather have… the IIGS with Mirage sound quality, or the new Hybrid Arts digitizer? I see wonderful things on the horizon. They're a little blurry now, but let's hope they'll come into view soon.
#36850From: Terry CarrollOct 20, 1986 11:03 PM
Hey: Don't knock the Mirage sound quality. It's no Emulator or Kurzweil buut it's price/performance is great. A Mirage-no keyboard is $1300 (1700 with, and that's about half what the cheapest sampler available was when it came out. Too bad they're talking to those GS creeps, though.
#36881From: Richard RaeOct 21, 1986 6:52 AM
Terry, Again, don't take my remarks too far. I agree that the price/performance ratio of the Mirage is excellent. My comment was intended to indicate that if someone was going to build a sound generating system for the Amiga (considering what we've arleady got, which is sufficient for most home use), I would sincerely hope that they'd go farther than Mirage quality. No slam of the Mirage was intended. After all, I love the DX7, but when you get right down to it, it's every bit as noisy as a Mirage. You work with what you've got.
#36881From: Richard RaeOct 21, 1986 6:52 AM
Terry, Again, don't take my remarks too far. I agree that the price/performance ratio of the Mirage is excellent. My comment was intended to indicate that if someone was going to build a sound generating system for the Amiga (considering what we've arleady got, which is sufficient for most home use), I would sincerely hope that they'd go farther than Mirage quality. No slam of the Mirage was intended. After all, I love the DX7, but when you get right down to it, it's every bit as noisy as a Mirage. You work with what you've got.
#36850From: Terry CarrollOct 20, 1986 11:03 PM
Hey: Don't knock the Mirage sound quality. It's no Emulator or Kurzweil buut it's price/performance is great. A Mirage-no keyboard is $1300 (1700 with, and that's about half what the cheapest sampler available was when it came out. Too bad they're talking to those GS creeps, though.
#37024From: Chris GriggOct 23, 1986 2:53 AM
I'm not sure whether I'd rather have the Hybrid thingie or the IIGS. Actually, one of the people in my group already has an Emulator II, and the place I work at has a Mirage, so I guess if I had the money I'd get a Mac Plus and buy Sound Designer! Hybrid Arts is 16 bits, but there are more Mirage samples available. They're very different things, really. As a music/sound programmer for consumer software, I really only have interest in the built-in sound stuff…but as a dedicated audio experimenter, I only have interest in the best computer-A/D-D/A/graphics system. which would YOU choose?
#37043From: Richard RaeOct 23, 1986 6:47 AM
<Sigh> Well, there's another perfectly good hypothetical point shot to heck. Never was any good at forensics, anyway. 8)
#37043From: Richard RaeOct 23, 1986 6:47 AM
<Sigh> Well, there's another perfectly good hypothetical point shot to heck. Never was any good at forensics, anyway. 8)
#37024From: Chris GriggOct 23, 1986 2:53 AM
I'm not sure whether I'd rather have the Hybrid thingie or the IIGS. Actually, one of the people in my group already has an Emulator II, and the place I work at has a Mirage, so I guess if I had the money I'd get a Mac Plus and buy Sound Designer! Hybrid Arts is 16 bits, but there are more Mirage samples available. They're very different things, really. As a music/sound programmer for consumer software, I really only have interest in the built-in sound stuff…but as a dedicated audio experimenter, I only have interest in the best computer-A/D-D/A/graphics system. which would YOU choose?
#36810From: Richard RaeOct 20, 1986 5:02 PM
Chris, No, I haven't yet. You aren't harping, and I wouldn't be depressed. ANY advance is an advance, and the fact that it didn't occur in my computer first is only a minor inconvenience. After all, those Yamaha and Ensoniq chip sets are just that… chip sets. Anything they can build in the box we could hang on the buss… if someone wants to badly enough. Me, personally, I want something better than Mirage quality, though I will agree with you that, at the current state of the art, Mirage sound quality exceeds Amiga sound quality. If price and availablility were the same, and assuming high quality audio were your goal, which would YOU rather have… the IIGS with Mirage sound quality, or the new Hybrid Arts digitizer? I see wonderful things on the horizon. They're a little blurry now, but let's hope they'll come into view soon.