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POST – how to use it?

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#30463From: RON TROYMar 11, 1990 12:26 PM
Can anyone tell me how to use the Postscript interpreter POST10 in the new upload library? While the doc file is full of technical information, no where does it actually say how to do a simple display or print of a postscript file. While I think I've got the command syntax reasonably understood, it can't find any postscript fonts (I have PS fonts from E!) but I don't know what its looking for. I created a postscript output file from E! to play with but even when run with the init.ps file it doesn't display anything. Any help would be appreciated! Ron
#30496From: Dave GrayMar 11, 1990 9:21 PM
Ron: It actually works pretty much like it seems it would have to. Your noprint is undoubtedly because post can't find the font you used. The default font is a NULL font – doesn't print anything. (See init.ps) If you are going to play with this you will NEED a couple of good books on Postscript – Adobe's red book is a must, and you will also need something in a more tutorial vein. I have had it running here, using a program called lptops – which just takes a plain-jane ascii file and makes it into a postscript file with the font, size, etc. that you specify. (its in the libs around here, with source). I tried running a Pagestream file thru it, and it choked right from the get-go. That was Friday (late), and I haven't had time to run down what was going on. Post is a bit faster that Pixelscript (and has a 68020 version that should be much faster), but doesn't have as slick a user interface. (Albeit, its not as bad as it looks at first) Oh yeah, don't try to use Adobe fonts. Not only are they a major pain in the wallet, they are encrypted in a manner that I don't think will run on a clone interpreter. The CG fonts from Gold Disk work like a champ, tho. Just remember that they MUST be in a directory called PSFonts:, and should have NO extension (like psfont or some similar. IE Times-Roman must SAY Times-Roman – nothing else) Have fun! (Whadda ya want for nothing, a rubber biscuit??) :->
#30545From: RON TROYMar 12, 1990 10:24 PM
While I've deleted the POST files, I can (shudder) dl them again. The only PS fonts I have came with Excellence, and I don't know which if any of those files are usable as POST acceptable font files. Would they be looking for the .metric files? Ron
#30556From: Dave GrayMar 12, 1990 11:57 PM
The .metric files are used by the editor itself, so it can determine the size of various characters, and thereby justify the text output in a reasonable manner. The files you would need are the actual font definitions. I don't have Excellence, so I don't know how they are packaged. A lot of WP's with 'Postscript fonts' really just have the screen fonts and metrics that correspond with the native fonts in a LaserWriter+ or the like. You should be able to look into the font files to see what they are – a real Postscript font is an ascii program, containing instructions as to how to make each character(!) on the fly. I am using the CG fonts from Gold Disk – HIGHLY recommended – even if you don't have PS or Pro Draw, the included software will make an Amiga bitmapped font, in ANY SIZE you want… Subject to Intuition's limitations. I will say this – Post is a neat deal – but you kind of have to know what is going on. I have found a few more little gotchas tonight, but no really gross bugs (UNLIKE Pixelscript). I don't think, tho, I'd try to do any production work with it. But hey, it does work, and the price is right. Oh well… Have fun!
#30561From: RON TROYMar 13, 1990 6:27 AM
If I understand what you're saying, the CG fonts are Postscript fonts with software that allows you to create matching Amiga fonts in whatever size you choose? The only problem with that is that I don't have any software that can generate output that uses the actual PostScript fonts that I could then use with Post or anything else, though the idea of creating fonts in the size I want them is appealing. I have to admit, the more I see of PS the more confused I get! 🙂 Ron
#30620From: Dave GrayMar 14, 1990 12:51 PM
Ummm, no the CG fonts is short for the Compu-Graphic fonts. They are copyrighted property of AGFA Compugraphic, Inc. They are actually an outline description (like the PostScript fonts.) The GD package includes a converter that MAKES a postscript font, or an Amiga font on the fly. Note that a PostScript font is any size you want – it is scaled by the program, uhhh, page description. The Amiga fonts work with DeluxePaint, etc. If you want to play with PS, there is a file called LPTOPS over in Tech that will create some nifty postscript output.
#30624From: RON TROYMar 14, 1990 5:48 PM
I'll look for it! Ron
#30790From: Art SteinmetzMar 19, 1990 7:18 AM
Copyright issue. Is there anything to prevent you from making Amiga bit map fonts in several sizes from one of the GD/CG fonts and passing them around? More than one person here has pointed out that font bit maps, per se, may not be copyrighted. — Art
#30562From: RON TROYMar 13, 1990 6:27 AM
P.S. It would have been nice if they had provided at least one such font to match their demo icon.ps. If they had provided a popular one such as Times-Roman I could have gone into E!, generated a PS file (since E! comes with that Amiga font plus metric) and finally seen POST in action. It occurs to me that if the CG fonts have the fonts from E! included I could use those to try out POST before buying that cartridge. Ron